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Post #40828 by Aussie on January 18th 2012, 8:32 PM (in topic “response to COA”)

response to COA:

basing their decision on lies and fabricated (by them) wrong information I see as an error at law, especially when the agencies they contacted would have told them different to what the csa say, agencies like ASIC for company records etc, fancy misquoting ASIC.

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Post #40826 by Aussie on January 18th 2012, 8:28 PM (in topic “CSA COA issues”)

CSA COA issues: csa

I know of no other NGO or GO that can get away with what they do, there are laws to prevent others but there are few when it comes to the csa and accountability therein.

I thought little of the FCOA but they are angels compared to the csa, the csa are just lying vultures devoid of any ability to see reason or the truth, the letter i just received from them contained blatant lies, deliberate they can only be.

Who is trying to do something about the csa, any body and if there is are they getting any where, I am driven to considering setting up another website just to expose csa as much as possible.

The whole thing just defies all that we have been taught about honesty and fairness.

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Post #40815 by Aussie on January 18th 2012, 5:37 PM (in topic “response to COA”)

response to COA:

as I was with the coa application I am prepared for rejection on the objection and for the ssat and am prepared to go further if need be, this time it is "cut and dried" (I think, well i hope, maybe!, aahhh) cheers

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Post #40805 by Aussie on January 18th 2012, 2:28 PM (in topic “response to COA”)

response to COA:

the CSA do not care about the devastation that they cause through incorrect assessments, all they care about is reducing the cost to the tax payer, the more cs$ the less social security $

CSA officers should be held accountable for their mistakes (often deliberate) and should that ever happen and only if, then some fairness and honesty may surface, until then they will can go on doing what they do best, screwing people over.

I just received my notice from the csa today disallowing my coa application and guess what, the reasons contained things that I am supposed to have said that i definitely did not and the decision was in the main based on these lies.

I have submitted an FOI request for the recording of the conversation and have lodged a complaint and will be lodging an objection (again).

My bet is that the recording will be lost or can't be provided for some reason because if they did find it will prove what I am saying, at least if it can't be provided then it can't prove what they are saying and will surely cast doubt on them as I do have a receipt number for the recording.

There are no words that can describe the pathetic actions of the CSA, although fraud, stealing and trickery come to mind

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Post #40803 by Aussie on January 18th 2012, 2:27 PM (in topic “CSA COA issues”)

CSA COA issues

the CSA do not care about the devastation that they cause through incorrect assessments, all they care about is reducing the cost to the tax payer, the more cs$ the less social security $

CSA officers should be held accountable for their mistakes (often deliberate) and should that ever happen and only if, then some fairness and honesty may surface, until then they will can go on doing what they do best, screwing people over.

I just received my notice from the csa today disallowing my coa application and guess what, the reasons contained things that I am supposed to have said that i definitely did not and the decision was in the main based on these lies.

I have submitted an FOI request for the recording of the conversation and have lodged a complaint and will be lodging an objection (again).

My bet is that the recording will be lost or can't be provided for some reason because if they did find it will prove what I am saying, at least if it can't be provided then it can't prove what they are saying and will surely cast doubt on them as I do have a receipt number for the recording.

There are no words that can describe the pathetic actions of the CSA, although fraud, stealing and trickery come to mind

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Post #40782 by Aussie on January 17th 2012, 9:30 AM (in topic “response to COA”)

response to COA: time frames

So from that I take it the CSA can take as long as 50 days (my case) or even more, thanks Mike T, cheers

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Post #40773 by Aussie on January 16th 2012, 9:15 PM (in topic “response to COA”)

response to COA

can anyone tell me how long can the CSA take to respond to a COA application and if they don't, what course of action can be taken and in what time frame, cheers

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Post #39460 by Aussie on November 7th 2011, 8:45 PM (in topic “facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big”)

facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big:

no prob craigo, i actually learnt something from it that has helped me make one decission, thanks

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Post #39333 by Aussie on November 3rd 2011, 2:38 PM (in topic “facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big”)

facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big:

eclipse said … "seriously.  Threats of legal proceedings are one thing, actually starting those proceedings is another.  Any government department has far too much to lose and nothing to gain by participating in court actions when they have no firm basis to do so."

the csa does in their opinion and according to legislation, "have a firm basis to do so", remember that the debt is now a proven debt to the commonwealth and they want the money.

this is real world stuff, well real in the csa world any way

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Post #39329 by Aussie on November 3rd 2011, 2:14 PM (in topic “facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big”)

facing possible bankruptcy csa debt too big:

OK, lets get into some details in an attempt to have some better understand and form opinions etc.

Firstly the csa assessment stands at approx 400 per week and that is from the start of the 2010 financial year and to run for 3 years and according to them was based on the following;

The mother states she has nil income apart from centerlink benefits and the 100 per week I give her, she also claims to have no monies in the bank, she also said that she had not disposed of any property in the past 3 years (question on the csa coa form) but she had in fact sold one property for 800k and bought another for 400k, csa did not investigate this even though I handed up copies of the sale and purchase records.

My financial position at the time of the assesment I was earning 20k pa with another additional 30k in benefits coming my way through loan repayments to me, total income if you like 50k and I did agree to accept the 30k as income because at some point in the future it would have become income anyway.

Csa sets income at 150k for the purposes of calculating cs based on my companies financials showing before depreciation of approx 130k before tax and here is the interesting bit in that the real money available for distribution (capacity) is as follows.
Company profit before tax is approx 130k (after my wages)but remember that does not take into account the 30k benefit I am receiving nor what I have to pay the ato for that year and nor does it take into account that due to an ato audit the company ends up with a 400k debt to the ato to be paid over 4 years, currently between the years tax bill and the audited debt the company pays 9600 per month to the ato, thats 115k per year.

Now do the sums, the ato of 115 and the benefit of 30 k comes to 145k and that is to come out of 130k, can someone tell me how this can be done especially when the csa want another 20k on top of that, how does that not show the ability to pay is just not there the 30k benefit is to cover house mortgage (yes I know I should not have bought the house) and remember that I have agreed that the 30k can be seen as income so that one is not an issue, based on csa calc etc my level of child support should be approx 100 pw.

My companies financial position is that it obviously has a debt to the commonwealth also and it must be paid as per the agreement with the ato, if it is not then they will fold the company and come after me as a director for the debt so it must pay and that leaves the cash flow in negative territory as it is.

It has been suggested that I just take the money out of the company but that will have only one result and that is the company will fold and I will be investigated and under the companies act I risk loosing my freedom, so that is not an option.
I am not telling you anything that the csa does not know and in fact that the csa has not confirmed, they have spoken to the ato, they have both mine and the companies financial records, they have everything apart from a calculator that works and the ability to admit they are wrong and say sorry.

Please also remember that I am 63 years old and living in a region where there are no job prospects for me outside my company
I have competing obligations to the csa, the ato and to the companies act as a director that if I dont want to get into further trouble I must remain mindful of and act accordingly, in short I am screwed.

Re threats of legal stuff etc not only did they make them why do you think I am in court in approx 6 weeks, they are taking me to court, not me them.

More info available should any one want it

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