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Kevin Rudd's summit of the 1000 "best and brightest brains" in Australia has been slammed as a "cock-up" because only one woman was chosen for its leadership team, alongside nine men.

This has created a lot of hullabaloo. Miranda Devine in the SMH, who is not noted for being neutral in male gender issues, stirs the feminists a little with this:
Miranda Divine said
Rudd and his co-organisers should not be cowed by the howls of the dinosaur feminist set, such as Eva Cox, who said the "white-anglo bloke" list made her feel "slightly sick in my stomach", Susan Ryan who said it was "11th-century paternalism", or Catherine Harris who felt "like screaming 'Hello! Kevin!"'.

That is not to belittle the achievements of these women, as the feminist fights they waged benefited the women who came after them.

But the fact is that affirmative action has negative consequences for all women and is most damaging to the most promising. It implies that any successful woman's achievements are fraudulent and no woman can be judged on merit.
Does anybody know what 11th Century Paternalism was?

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I "think" and don't quote me on this but it refers to medieval times when women were merely chattels to be used and owned by men. It was the time of the Norman Conquest etc in Britain.

When you are swimming down a creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a Moray.

History lesson

It was a European wide movement, which was linked to religion, the knights and a general code of conduct.

The father figure was seen to be the protector of the family - the laws of the time (ecclesiastical) were paternalistic in nature.

The 11th century was seen as the growth of this movement by historians. Remember nation states, as we know them, were only a few hundred years old at this time and had only recently settled in to some form of recognised borders.

Also, the so called dark ages had just finished, many countries had changed language, culture and gone from maternalism to paternalism.

In Britain the Romans left in 410AD to leave the country in a Romano - Celtic flux; the Saxons came to settle, which led to the break up of Britannia into Wales, Scotland and England - all with different takes on paternalism. Then the Normans came, which led to the strengthening of paternalism.

The same was happening in Arabia and Persia as Islam spread.

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Or simply put that the Father was the wise one who controlled the family and made all decisions for the good of the family and as Jazdia expresses women were nothing less than property who followed the commands of the head of the family.

No doubt this has been used as a derogatory way to suggest repression and abuse of women and bring them back to a time of no rights.

Although the broader effect are as monteverdi has said I doubt any one would give such a flippant comment with as much thought or knowledge as you have given Sir. After all it was an insult  :thumbs:
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