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Why don't we use brain to think clearly?

The problem is so great that I'm not sure where to start.  I am quite stunned to see so much brain washing on this site and so much support from groups of interest.

I only expect that some radicals will be offended by my revelations.  But in fairness and according to rules of logic, I could be offended too.  But does anybody care? It is likely that moderators and censors will not allow this post be published.

As I said the 100 pages book will not explain fully what I have to say about the issue of government destroying families for no reason, but have to start somehow.

I do not expect everybody on this forum to egree with me.  In fact I expect most to disagree, but if you want to do it, use rational arguments, or I will not wish to continue.

Based on my experience and observations, I refuse to to call anything man made as law.  You will honour me if you call according to truth, the acts of parliament, rules, regulation and so on, and never refer to them as laws unless you cite or quote.  They are not laws, but as name suggests rules and regulations etc.  It came to my attention through analysis of properties of the law.  Lawlessness cannot possibly be called a law.  Lawlessness term I may use which has universal understanding that it refers to social principles in society based on fairness and truth etc.

While it is true in general that no institution and in particular in courts, is based on the law in sense of truth, fairness.  For a long time general population is commonly saying that there is no justice in courts.  For this reason the new term has been coined: "natural justice", and it is now used in context that there is no natural justice in courts.

Some people have asked on internet what is the difference between legal and natural justice?  I like the simple answer given: legal justice is something, nobody knows what it is, and natural justice is what even children understand.

I have experienced that courts not only fail openly to deliver justice, but they actively deliver antijustice which as I will show is a legal crime.  Legal because it is in accordance with their books, and crime because that's what they do and I will explain a bit of it.

Now is a time for a small definition. Any adverse action against an innocent person for no good reason, constitute a crime.  For example, the man requesting your wallet on the street, commits a crime.  Anyone breaking into your home with or without your presence, commits a crime.  Any person kidnapping children, commits a serious crime often called terrorism.

Shall I say now that all that has happened to my by the decision of Australian democratic government and it's administration that is police and court? Yes, it is true, but let me show that is is a crime right from design.

Family Law act of No Fault Divorce 1975, this act of parliament as named and called by many as law is an act of crime, and promotion of mass scale crime agaist innocent children and both of their parents and society.

If one thinks rationally, the very title of the act, explains it all.

Let me just list a few of many events showing that legal crime and I am not an exception but example.  Thousands of similar cases appear each year.

Legal criminals have:

1.  kidnapped my all four children

2.  orphaned my four children

3.  destroyed wellbeing of my wife

4.  destroyed wellbeing of myself

5.  robbed me of my home, car and all content, making me trully homeless

6.  arrested me for living on the street

7.  arrested me for visiting my children in my home

8.  arrested me for asking for justice and review of antilaw legislations

9. demand from me ransom for all four children 9% grooss of my income making me a bankrupt

10. refuse to provide me a temporary public accomodation

11. refuse to accept my report on children abuse (non physical nor sexual).

12. subjected my already victimised children and wife to a brainwashing of fanatical religious sect (when I mentioned that in court, the magistrate threaten me)

13. allow children to develop an extreme case of PAS and related problems

I should make it clear.  I make my stand for cases of government interference with families without a good reason.

Most inelligent people agree with me and occasionally some acuse me for something they imagine and cannot comprehend my opinions.

I am offended and insulted by everyone who proposes that government interferes with my family. If you are proponent of government family law, you may invite the government to govern your family and be honest and declare: Magistrate, your honour, please, please make decision about my children and my family because I am not capable of deciding myself.

But please do not send the criminal magistrate to my family.

Before I make a few statements based on my experience or observations, let me say that a legal crime against  innocent children (it is apparently in their best interest) is not just against them.  This is crime against their fathers. It is also crime against their mothers who usually initiate the court process.  It is also crime against society.

Well, I feel that I need to explain how can I refer to officials as committing crime or legal crime.

Adolf Hitler, have ordered to deprive Jews of their posessions, just because they were Jews. Ordered to destroy their children and later parents using gas, fire, shot guns.  Anyone who doubts that it was a crime?

Yet all was based on German parliament.  Can we conclude that if something was drafted in parliament is neither good, nor a law?  Can we also concluded that legal that is based on parliament papers acts can be extremely criminal?  I hope so. Has anybody any doubt that in order to commit a crime, you do not necessarily need a metal helment and machine gun, you can do it in white coat, and having a wig on your head.

I know that many refuse to believe in God because it is irrational as they say, byt somehow they treat anything from UN as it was from bible.  I have problem to call it rational, how abut you?  To be honest I see that this organisation have created much more problems that any good.

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Now a few statements.

Legal industry as any other industry, seek maximum benefits with minimal effort.

What our society would look like when judges and lawyers were paid only for each  saved marriage and nothing as is the case now for each destroyed one?

No family court has any justification to exist.


Therefore, the only sensible reforms are to withdraw the government entirely from family affairs. Any other reforms do guarantee lots of problems.
Problem - people like to be treated like children - if they can't suck on the teat of government funding and assurance then they will have to think - WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

 Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough
mmistrz.

I see you are very angry with the government. My dealings with the authorities have not been any better.

You say it is only sensible to withdraw the government from family affairs? Do you mean abolish the family court?

Do you not agree that without LAW we have CHAOS?

Do you not agree that without LAW we have CHAOS?
I think my answer is yes, which is to say that I can't agree that without law we have chaos. One would, especially in a a law ridden society as we are all in, assume from all we are told, that chaos would reign free without law, However I believe that nobody has experienced this. Or have they? Did caveman have laws or did the apes before the caveman or the whatever that purportedly came out of the prime something or other swamp? Was it then perhaps because of this chaos without law, that each and everyone of us here is actually looking at my chaotic scribblings (yeah bet you're turned away now :) ).

There again I suppose it depends upon which law or laws you are talking about, physical laws such as gravity, natural law, the law that is set within our genetic make-up.

I could only agree if the proof were given, uhhm can there be any proof of chaos does it defy being proven even?

Perhaps I should have just given the one liner (hey even better one worder) Pass. :)
If your children were made orphans you would not be posting here and I would not be trying to interpret what you are writing.

I think you have this website confused with another one.

Junior Executive of SRL-Resources

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (Look for the Avatars). Be mindful what you post in public areas. 

Mmistrz

Joined the site today. Posted into two forums that had nothing to do with his posts and added some very off beat topic headers.

His posts were moved to Hyde Park Corner.

He then proceeded to make some very disturbing attacks on some of the groups represented here - these posts have been moved to a quarantine area.

He has been requested to spend some time reading through parts of this site - so he understands what this site is really about and where posts should be made.

mmistrz has joined a very exclusive club of being temporarily suspended on the day he joined.

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
Not sure if this topic is finished but the thread of Law versus chaos is interesting - and I had the same criticisms leveled at me months ago.

Stupid law is stupid law.
Society is more than law.

I am not saying remove all law - just look at all the ways do doing things and implementing change (as stated previously)

It seems mmmssxsrwststs and I have things in common.
 :)

 Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough
Jon Pearson said
It seems mmmssxsrwststs and I have things in common. :)
On that issue I agree 100%.
Sorry but I can't help but laugh at this thread. It seems two people have found their soul mates…..

On the one thing that does make sense is that what is being suggested is a state of anarchy, and I think despite all the problems our society has the two alternatives - anarchy or communism - are much worse.

What we have may not be perfect but at least we have the power and the choice to change it! And this site will go a long way to assisting that change.

P.S I'm not brain washed - I'm brain DEAD from all the differing opinions.

When you are swimming down a creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a Moray.
mmistrz said
The problem is so great that I'm not sure where to start.  I am quite stunned to see so much brain washing on this site and so much support from groups of interest.

I only expect that some radicals will be offended by my revelations.  But in fairness and according to rules of logic, I could be offended too.  But does anybody care? It is likely that moderators and censors will not allow this post be published.
At first I thought I should just leave this post alone but it is credible proof that free speech is allowed here and that the moderators have left the topics in this forum which seems more appropriate. The site is as far as we are aware a site not to "Brain Wash" but to inform, educate, enhance and give hope and proper direction to those who have the misfortune to have difficult separations and problematic family situations. The SPCA (our lot) has many women members who stand shoulder to shoulder on most issues. I absolutely encourage all debate.

We have a very consultative process, that some say is far to lengthy, but as the Executive Secretary I believe my role is to facilitate that debate and try and meet on common ground where we have significant differences. I can recall many nights and even more early hours mornings and dawn, where we would re craft and re word the documents that the SPCA would be putting to Government in relation to changes to the Acts in 2002 through 2006. I can recall many very vigourous debates. In the end every one who had a sound, well founded, creative or other commentary was heard.I believe the moderators here in this Portal have that same consultative view. Free speech is allowed but this Portal site is not a place to talk about whales or the Government clandestine security services nor to ear bash opponents who hold a different view.

I for one welcome the testing and challenge of some of the posts here in this forum and in fact all the forums here. I sometimes tell the site moderators they are to harsh here or there, that all must have a view. At the end of the day you have to go back and look at the site rules. What is this site about? From there you need to decide if you need a "Private" forum. There are many groups here that use "Private" forums. We have no real interest in those forums and the respective "Group Leaders" must administer these.  The areas you have posted in are "Public" and these are closely moderated to fit with the aims of the Portal.

I have taken significant effort to ensure our SPCA posts are accurate and above all in general give positive reinforcement.
mmistrz said
As I said the 100 pages book will not explain fully what I have to say about the issue of government destroying families for no reason, but have to start somehow.
What book are you talking about here?
mmistrz said
I do not expect everybody on this forum to egree with me.  In fact I expect most to disagree, but if you want to do it, use rational arguments, or I will not wish to continue.
I don't believe everyone in these forums agrees with me but if we all try our best to contribute something to get a better world for our Children then what more can anyone ask. Our aim is to effect Shared Parenting outcomes for those who can accomodate this. We have a view on how this can be achieved that is at odds to others but we do not suggest for one moment those views held by others are completely wrong nor should those views be witheld.
mmistrz said
Based on my experience and observations, I refuse to to call anything man made as law.  You will honour me if you call according to truth, the acts of parliament, rules, regulation and so on, and never refer to them as laws unless you cite or quote.  They are not laws, but as name suggests rules and regulations etc.  It came to my attention through analysis of properties of the law.  Lawlessness cannot possibly be called a law.  Lawlessness term I may use which has universal understanding that it refers to social principles in society based on fairness and truth etc.
My own view is that we need some guiding principals in life. If you call them laws then so be it. Lawlessness is clearly describing a society that has no structure, is without rules or penalty and allows the strong and wealthy to destroy or overrun the weak, underprivaleged and poor in society. Without some degree of "laws" you wouldnt even be able to drive a motor vehicle as everyone would go through the red light. …. Notwithstanding that conversely we must not blindly be led and accept that every law is a good law. Laws must be as good as possible to allow flexibility but safe and operational "life as we know it" to go on.
mmistrz said
I have experienced that courts not only fail openly to deliver justice, but they actively deliver antijustice which as I will show is a legal crime.  Legal because it is in accordance with their books, and crime because that's what they do and I will explain a bit of it….
I agree that some case we see are very poor outcomes and yet others are very good.I have personally been involved in many cases over the years and many are resolved with satisfactory outcomes. A lot more satisfactory resolutions have been achieved since July 2006. That has to be a step forward. The Judicary executes the written law. They pour over every sentance, every section and interpret sections one way or another. Our aim has bene to provide them with direction through the wording. As we move through each iteration I believe we move closer to the results we need.
mmistrz said
Family Law act of No Fault Divorce 1975, this act of parliament as named and called by many as law is an act of crime, and promotion of mass scale crime agaist innocent children and both of their parents and society.
I have not heard that. I am sorry that you have had by the sounds of things a dreadful time in a court proceedings. If that is so and because we are unaware of the detail we cannot comment. I have read the comments in relation to what has happened in your extensive list. I have cases currently where one or more of those things is in process today.

Can we fix everything in one fell swoop. If the SPCA could wave a light sabre and fix it all then I am sure , subject to the Federal excutives conncurence, it would. Conversley we have a minefield to negotiate. Some of the more radical groups advocate for even more AVO and DVO laws and False accusations to be recorded as fact and passed on teh the various courts. We are doing our very best at the front line. Many of us have no lives except to attempt change the bad parts of the system we live with for the betterment of mums, dads and kids. All and every one, are entiled in law to the fundemental principal that every single Australian child must have the right to have the love and affection of BOTH parents… Do not kick us to the ground and stamp us for that valiant effort.
mmistrz said
[Web link removed by moderator]Now a few statements.

Legal industry as any other industry, seek maximum benefits with minimal effort.

What our society would look like when judges and lawyers were paid only for each  saved marriage and nothing as is the case now for each destroyed one?

No family court has any justification to exist.


Therefore, the only sensible reforms are to withdraw the government entirely from family affairs. Any other reforms do guarantee lots of problems.
I pondered about this.

I reflect back on Christmas day this past Christmas. I took half a dozen calls from dads and a mum who could not have their kids. They had orders to have their kids, they expected to have their kids. They had their respective families waiting to see the kids but the kids were not able to be collected.

If you destroy the very system, the very fabric of the establishment who sit and deal to and can order these wayward delinquent denziens of the dark side to comply with orders and take away from the judicary their powers to dispense swift justice, who then are our last line of defence and who can keep orders on track… What hope is there then. I guess when we get to that stage I for one will have to pack up shop. O_o

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Artemis said
If your children were made orphans you would not be posting here and I would not be trying to interpret what you are writing.

I think you have this website confused with another one.
Yes Artemis you make a very valuble observation, in fact one that I missed … point 2.  orphaned my four children


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Secretary SPCA said
I for one welcome the testing and challenge of some of the posts here in this forum and in fact all the forums here. I sometimes tell the site moderators they are to harsh here or there, that all must have a view. At the end of the day you have to go back and look at the site rules. What is this site about? From there you need to decide if you need a "Private" forum. There are many groups here that use "Private" forums. We have no real interest in those forums and the respective "Group Leaders" must administer these.  The areas you have posted in are "Public" and these are closely moderated to fit with the aims of the Portal.
Some might compare this site to a large house where all are welcome to enter and use the facilities 'subject to the house rules'.

The moderators do not expect someone to enter and then ignore the house rules. Doing so quickly raises questions amongst the moderators.

As the Secretary SPCA points out there are private forums on this portal where a whole range of topics and issues can be explored without being in the public arena.

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
Well I did a little research on that person.

He has been posting all over the place in other forums and bulletin boards - exactly the same material.

Seems he found this site and thought another outlet for me without having the courtesy or good sense to do some reading on the site first.

We are quick to condemn - are we quick to seek to understand?

mmistrz.

I did a search. I noted your presence of the various forums you have posted to is very recent!

I gather what has happened is very recent, but I will offer the courtesy of asking for more information should you be allowed back onto the site. That is a suggestion to the powers that be!

I recall a time when all I wanted to do was destroy what I considered to be a biased and dangerous system. I still consider parts of it very damaging to the very structure of our society. Yesterday I helped prepare documents which I hope will at least damage the reputation of a Court appointed expert, at best his reputation will be totally destroyed. His crime - he used his position of perceived power to attempt to destroy a father in the presence of his child. He did this in a most childish manner because the father had dared to correct some misconceptions the "Professional" had started with.

I recall a time when the advice I received (from a Family Law Expert Solicitor) was that the other parent could do whatever they like, that I should wait for left overs, and that the Judges of the FCoA decided the Law was whatever they wanted it to be. And that if I dared to suggest that the needs of my child were important, I was a control freak.

I now know different. I have met some amazing people. At just the right time somebody would say something that caused me to stop and think or given me the courage to seek the light at the end of the tunnel. I have had a judge tell me my child was lucky to have me as a father.

I have silently spoken in forums where I had no voice and earned the respect of the Judge. I have had the opposition seek my counsel in conferences where I was supposed to be silent.

I also frighten some people, they are usually of small mind. That might seem egotistical - but so be it. I have the respect of many professionals in many different sections of what is considered the family Law system in this country. Many consider me a peer. I am honoured to be so considered.

The second greatest joy for me though remains the privilege of helping a shattered parent find a glimpse of the light at the end of the tunnel.

The greatest joy is making the original dispute evaporate!

For me - Shared Parenting is a Reality - Maybe it can be for you too!
mmistrz said
The problem is so great that I'm not sure where to start.  I am quite stunned to see so much brain washing on this site and so much support from groups of interest. I only expect that some radicals will be offended by my revelations.
You are very perceptive for a newbie, but suffer from Robinson Crusoe Syndrome

Point is that the same thing is happening to 200 other newbies just today.

AND ALL THE SAME

So does that answer brainwash question?
Site admin note: I have no idea what this post means. Can anyone explain it? Unless there is some reasonable explanation we will be deleting this post :(
This is typical Brian Hogan gibberish.  Silly and unhelpful.  Just using the forum as his personal stage.  But he keeps coming back because he recognises he worth of the site … despite his constant putdowns in other (unvalidated) posts.
It does seem as though someone has gone through a very bad event recently.

Can you imagine a society without any rules or laws, most people would be afraid to go anywhere.  We as a society have elected governments to run the country, to implement laws, rules and regulations.  A simple thing like driving down the road would be like playing Russian roulette.

All one has to do is look at the animal kingdom.  A tribe of monkeys, a pride of lions, nearly every society in the animal kingdom has its own set of rules, those that do not abide by those rules are punished or banished from that society.

Laws etc are in place for a reason, not everyone likes them but they are there none the less.  If there are laws that should be changed, sitting around and winging about them will do nothing but bread contempt and hate.  Sites like this are here to help people and to lobby the government to try and bring about changes to badly written laws.

That's about it from me…
The Hyde Park Park area was created at the request of several posters and the moderators to stop posters cluttering up 'proper' forums with nonsense or unprovable accusations or to use other forums as a 'soapbox'.

Additionally this area can serve the purpose of off-topic articles where there is no relevant forum. It can also act, as one poster said, as a form of Coffee Chat area.

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