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Heres a funny story (although we're not laughing)

Whats good for the goose is obviously not good for some ganders

Three years of fighting CSA to get money out of ex (She was earning $35,000-now admitted to csa-but only required to pay $26.00 per week due to avoiding csa, not lodging tax returns or replying to letters) and me asking/begging them to garnish her wages, continually being told 'give her another chance Mr XXX'.

Three years of being put off, given the run around, doing csa's work for them, finding addresses and employers and all to no avail. NONE!

Now, (tables have turned and she is the payee) after just four months of paying some - a fair whack none-the-less -of the ridiculous amount required - stupid me put in a tax return- and incurring a debt due to not being able to meet the entire amount,CSA are saying they will garnish MY wages to recover the debt!

Where is the justice? How is this equitable? and WHO made them GOD?

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
That's terrible.

I want to know how some people get away with it? How come it is not fair?

Do they just complain all the time so CSA give in? I never win with them and I am the payer so when people say payee's always lose it just is not true.

I must be doing something wrong!
Sadly I am not surprised. As much as CSA deny it they are still basing it on gender.

It is always the poor mother and the deadbeat dad.

They do play God at times dishing out rules that only suit one and not the other.

And they wonder why they are trying to combat income fraud!

If things were fair they would not have that problem.
Hey I am the Mother and their was a dad who dwindled his business books for 7 years …CSA have done nothing to help this in my case. It might be gender bias but not in my case. I still have to wonder if you are louder and get legal advice you can walk all over CSA. I have a feeling the CSA need more expert people working for them to understand legal documents and such.
Oh the humanity - that adults should be expected to contribute so excessively to the finacial support of support their children - when will it END!  :'(
Chris said
Oh the humanity - that adults should be expected to contribute so excessively to the finacial support of support their children - when will it END! :'(
WTF ?

Annie I fully sympathise with you, you are in a minority group and I bet your as honest as the day is long. This could be why you are getting a raw deal. As far as the CSA goes, honesty does not pay, it costs you. I have a relly in the same situation and its just as cruel how they give her the run around! :(

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
I am glad I am was not the only one who was confused by that comment!!

Monti confused

I am just confused, full stop!

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Further update.

The CSA say they won't adjust her income for the time when she was the payer because 'she was under no obligation to report her extra income to the CSA'.

NOW I'M CONFUSED   :dry:

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
I think they are making it up as they go along.

What does that mean?

That is just ridiculous.

Have you gone to your local member?
A few times in the past annie, hasn't done any good!  Our case has always been about the mother, even when she had 0% of care csa were more concerned for her welfare than the kids.  I wonder how many more cases out there are receiving the same treatment.  IMHO csa are gender biased regardless of whose care the children are in.  Perhaps because females are traditionally seen as the weaker sex and need protecting. Ha its us that need protecting from them.   :o  ;)  :o

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
I know from all the evidence there is gender biased and it has been dreadful gender bias in my partners case it just doesn't seem to be in my case. I must not need protecting…My ex recently changed the care percentages and they never even bothered to phone me and clarify them now I am back at the SSAT as they are completely false. I so wish he had the boys 40% of the time it would give us a break!

It is one strange system. They just don't seem to listen even when the legislation is thrown in their face. At times I think they just decide who they are going to listen to and at first I thought it was the one who jumped up and down the most but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Can you take it further?
I am with you Annie, i am the mother too and my sons father has had $0 income for the past 5 years due to running his own business and therefore it is me that has to pay him money!! and yet i know full well he earns as much if not more than me. So you are right we are in the minority.

CSA dont give a stuff about it at all. They cant prove he earns anything yet he works 6 days a week and has 3 cars a house and travels. He doesnt claim centerlink either so surely they would question that right?

I don't want his money; I just don't think it is right that I should pay him when I have my sonmost of the time, and that is only because he doesnt want to spend as much time with his son, not because I wont let him. He claims he is too busy!!!

However My husband and everyone other man i know has been treated so ridiculously unfairly. They battle to see their children and pay for it when they dont. Fork out thousands in court just to see their own children and still pay so much child support! These are fathers that are not dead beats, they love their kids and want them in their lives.

I agree that every single case needs to be assessed individually and properly. CSA needs to find a way to do this or the system is going to be flawed forever. It is easily manipulated by mothers (mostly) doing the wrong thing. It is simple "you dont get to see your children because i want more money"
annie said
Can you take it further?
Doesn't seem much point annie. After all the time consuming paperwork to get to this stage why drag it out only to get the same answer. Ours is a fairly simple, or so I thought, objection. That is Ms x was earning 35000 from July 07 to June 08. (This information was supplied to us by the csa.)

From July 07 to Dec 07 Ms x was the payer and from Dec 07 onward has been the payee. We asked for the period from July 07 to Dec 07 to be recalculated on the new information (35000 compared to 22000 it was calculated on)as she was the payer at that time and it would make a difference. Answer after objections etc.

She was under no obligation to notify csa of her change in income, and there will be NO change. IMO if she was a male they would be throwing all sorts of legislation at him. But objection rejected.

What's the point when the legislation/system can be manipulated so blatantly. :(:(:(It may sound defeatist but enough is enough!

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
You will never guess what just happened. My partner was given the payout amount as his last child is 18 and it was already extended. We paid the payout amount and now have another $400.00 to pay on adjusted taxable income.

When we asked that Ms X had said she was going to earn $25 000 but actually earnt $41000 without adding back her Salary sacrificing (that was already disputed and won in a COA) so that would mean she owes us they said sorry we are using your taxable income but allowing her to use her estimate…

How can that be? If you do a COA we might look at her taxable income. Like you my partner went, I will just pay the amount even though its not in the legislation and said will that be it now and they said it can take up to 12 years for the reconciliation to happen on his income not hers…

It is just so hard to understand what is really going on? Do you think it would help if we just had one person assigned to one case? I am sorry overcsa as you obviously have been doing the right thing and also deserve a break or for someone that might be able to help you understand. I still have 5 years to go with CSA. I wish my ex would settle for a private agreement so we could just get rid of them.
I love their use of the word 'sorry'. Like it actually means something. (18 + 12 = 30years. You don't get that for murder) 12 years, mmmm good luck with that. 5 years annie is a long time, but I feel really sorry for those just entering the system. My partner had a private agreement and csa said it was not good enough and sent her and her ex the amount they thought should be owed to her. She's not on centrelink so theres no need for them to be involved. Its like, 'you're a female, you should be asking for more'. GrGrl, he must be one of the few males who walk a golden path. I hope you believe in karma. Your story is just as wrong. Good luck.

When 'Life' is hard and things are tough,

and you feel like you've had enough.

Remember always this one thing true,

Someone else depends on YOU.
Everyone I know the feeling.  Wife and I split after difficulties and her affair.

I went to centrelink with her to find out what we needed to do in relation to change of circumstances and the like.  

It was interesting the lady (loosely used, female yes) asked us to sit down, she got the ex to sit opposite and before telling her the scenario she immediately spoke with the ex and not me.  She ignored memost of the time.

When I did ask a question it was an abrupt answer and then returned to speaking to the ex.

I was there to help the ex so that she would be ok in separation but what if she had been the proffessional earning 100000 and i was the stay at home dad earning 35000.  Would I have been treated differently.

Well the staff memeber will never know?
overcsa said
The CSA say they won't adjust her income for the time when she was the payer because 'she was under no obligation to report her extra income to the CSA'.
 
I thought we all had a LEGAL obligation to report ALL income?? This makes no sense whatsoever.  Have you tried the ombudsman? I had an issue with Centrelink (Same but different??) and as soon as the ombudsman was involved everything was fixed.

When you are swimming down a creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a Moray.
The other day C$A sent me a letter saying I owed $1000 in arrears and that they were going to send additional garnishment notices to my employer to collect it, and then another letter received from them the same day contained a C$A account statement showing that I was only $200 in arrears.

Did they think I would not see the discrepancy?

I agree when they do things like this then you cannot afford to give them any trust.
overcsa said
Where is the justice? How is this equitable? and WHO made them GOD?
Where is the justice? On holidays somewhere

How is this equitable? It isn't

and WHO made them GOD? John Howard
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