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Governor Hawke's Convicts

I like convict … has a historical feel.

Governor Hawke in 1989 founded a system of labour in which peoplewere employed according to their skills - as brick makers, carpenters, nurses, servants, cattlemen, shepherds and farmers and made to pay child support.

Educated and unassigned female convicts were sometimes set to the relatively easy work of record-keeping for the convict administration. Women convicts were assumed to be most useful as wives and mothers and those that married or gave birth were freed of their servitude.

Good behaviour meant that convicts could qualify for a Ticket of Leave, Certificate of Freedom, Conditional Pardon or even an Absolute Pardon. This allowed convicts to earn their own living and live independently.

" Perspective depends on which side of the barbed wire fence you sit, or indeed if you are sitting on it! "
How about "mug punter" or "wood duck" both seem to describe exactly how they treat you,when dealing with the CSA.
Ok Monti I accept that you don't have the right to racially,sexually or otherwise abuse people however the csa have exceptional powers, over and above what is normally applied to the populous, so hence special conditions apply.

There is relevance to organisations that apply Stalinist,Nazi,communist doctrines.

I consider the csa to be staffed by underqualified and undereducated peons(my personal opinion)that does not give them the right to treat me as a cash cow.

This is an important issue as the "we are only human" excuse doesnt cut it with me. There is systematic and unaccountable abuse across the board.

I am at a loss as to how this persecution of childrens parents is "in their best interest".

How many Senate enquires.

Deutsch

Wow, I got demoted to N/A.. How funny….There is no place for humour in this website….ya volt heir commandant!!!!!

Achtung Genoss,

I think you need to work on your German; you meant to say: 'Ja wohl Herr Kommandant'.

 Herr Monteverdi:'(

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bobbyboy said
Wow, I got demoted to N/A.. How funny… There is no place for humour in this website… ya volt heir commandant!

Achtung Genoss,

I think you need to work on your German; you meant to say: 'Ja wohl Herr Kommandant'.

Herr Monteverdi :'(
The N/A was because you did not put a title on your original post.

Consider that it takes about 2 minutes to move a post and less than a second to delete it.

There is a forum titled 'Humorous Posts'.

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
Sorry Sisyphus,

I learnt all my german from "Hogans heros"

bobbyboy said
Sorry Sisyphus, I learnt all my german from "Hogans Heros"
Here is a link for some humorous material:

http://flwg.com.au/forum/index.php?page=forum_rules

Sorry, it's not in German.

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
bobbyboy said
Wow, I got demoted to N/A.. How funny….There is no place for humour in this website….
 Herr Monteverdi
 

You feel insulted by N/A?  What about me? I got bumped off the thread I started and relegated to the backblocks!!

here's my reply quoted from the original thread.

monti…

I see you have edited/deleted/moved some of this thread… a thread whilst attempting a humorous approach, does refer in the original post issues of 'political correctness'.

From my knowledge 'political correctness' allies with freedom of speech, not censorship. In your capacity as a moderator, you have determined the rules of how one is allowed to express themselves, censored those that don't comply and demand submission to your rules, rules in my view based on opinion, yours!

It is well known the CSA "is a large government department that collects money from one parent to give to the other parent, which in turn hopefully goes on the child."  I would expect no-one would really consider it "a Stalinist, Nazi, Maoist or any other repugnant regimen", but use these terms in application to the CSA's behaviour or appearance of a dictatorship.

Before you cast opinion, you may want to consider that the referenced regimes came to power because they were supported by the majority of people in their respective countries with idealism for the benefit of all. (eg Hitlers regime wanted a europe without restrictive borders, one currency, was the greatest greenie of the 20th century, solved youth delinquency, unemployment, etc;&nbsp That only when the leaders attained increasing power did this power lead to offences against fellow humans. I assume the source of offence.

The Child Support Scheme may be considered by some to be following along the same lines as these regimes, that it's administrative body, the CSA, also in a position of power, is in effect in a position to abuse fellow humans. If some on this forum cannot express themselves otherwise in accordance to your rules, does that mean they are wrong to liken the powers of the CSA to Joseph, Adolf or Zedong?

As to not discussing posts "that discuss, encourage or suggest at ways of ILLEGALLY AVOIDING CS payments", good idea, if exposed the CSA will catch on and illegal methods have nothing to do with law do they?

In regards to moving my post where I suggested 'convict' as a possible reference to us poor blighters under CSA suppression, with the exception of minor editing it came from a public domain historical reference. Please return it.

(Having read a number of your posts I am of suspicion you are in some way related to the CSA. I therefor ask to publicly state if you are or have been a government employee or are/have been paid by the government either directly or indirectly?)

" Perspective depends on which side of the barbed wire fence you sit, or indeed if you are sitting on it! "

" Perspective depends on which side of the barbed wire fence you sit, or indeed if you are sitting on it! "
Even though this is a 'jokey' area of the site where opinion is more welcome, site rules will still be followed.

Likening an Australian Government instrument to various dictatorships is silly and offensive to those who have had family members executed under those regimes.

Members who flout the rules risk suspension and/or a permanent ban.

Junior Executive of SRL-Resources

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (Look for the Avatars). Be mindful what you post in public areas. 
zoehasrights said
bobbyboy said
Wow, I got demoted to N/A.. How funny….There is no place for humour in this website….
Herr Monteverdi
 
You feel insulted by N/A? What about me? I got bumped off the thread I started and relegated to the backblocks!!


You feel insulted? How do you think the moderators feel when someone continues to ignore the site rules?

Now correct me if I wrong. You were aware of the rules when you joined? You read the very first forum 'Before you Post? You had a look around the site before you posted?

If someone invites you into their home, do you enter it or your terms or theirs?

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
Artemis said
Likening an Australian Government instrument to various dictatorships is silly and offensive to those who have had family members executed under those regimes.

 

Based on your arguement we shouldn't even mention the Australian Goverment, as they have been ultimately responsible in the past for atrocities on our indigenious peoples. They were many killings, many not officially recorded, as a large proportion of the countries aborigines were classified as 'fauna' until 1961. Killing of this "wildlife" was officially sanctioned by people in authority and like these other regimes atrocities, many only discovered years later.


I am also offended by the practices of the CSA … they too have allegedly been responsible for deaths of family members …so don't mention CSA?

If any arguement is silly and offensive, it's yours.

" Perspective depends on which side of the barbed wire fence you sit, or indeed if you are sitting on it! "
I hear the points of Arte, Zoeh, and Sisy, all are valid to some point but please remember we are in Australia and the atrocities' of Europe are a vague memory to most of us, they are used as examples only and are not meant to offend those that still have intermit connection to others. Sisy, you have been told before you can be tooooooo heavy handed with the delete power you have. Just because you don't like Judges being held accountable at Law pursuant to Laws like s.72(ii) of the Constitution and s.22 of the Family Law Act and C$A workers subject to ridicule for their criminal behaviour (abuse of power by false claim to rights they do not have) does not  make your abuse of your delete power right.

Read s.24F of the (Comm) Crimes Act, it does make speaking in pubic of criminal acts by government officials treasonable to some extent and supportive of some of your behaviour. The Rights of People to speak out in their own language of choice, that is not only their dialect but also the language of their Social Economic Status (SES) when s.15AA of the Acts Interpretation Act is read with the Human Rights Laws applicable, then your abuse of the delete power exersiced by you is moot. 

Australia is a country that almost requires a UN of its own, due to the number of nations and languages represented as resident in this country.

When you have to accept a High Court (HC) Registrar adds "Barra Spam" (sic) to the title line of your e-mails then you learn to accept the contempt born Australians have for the people that make up this country.

Your deleting of people speaking out in the language of their common use is as offensive as the HC Registrar adding "Barra Spam" (sic) to the title line of my e-mails. (I am an ex dairy farmer of big black and white cows not a farmer of land lice (sheep)).

This is a public forum of your making for subjects you are offended by, so you need apply a more lenient hand to your interpretation of the rules.

I have asked but not been informed of what I have put forward that was not correct at law.

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No-Justice said
I hear the points of Arte, Zoeh, and Sisy, all are valid to some pointbut please remember we are in Australia and theatrocities' of Europe are a vague memory to most of us, they are used as examples only and are not meant to offend those that still have intermit connection to others. Sisy, you have been told before you can be tooooooo heavy handed with the delete power you have. Just because you don't like Judges being held accountable at Law pursuant to Laws like s.72(ii) of the Constitution and s.22 of the Family Law Act and C$A workers subject to ridicule for their criminal behaviour (abuse of power by false claim to rights they do not have) does not make your abuse of your delete power right.

Read s.24F of the (Comm) Crimes Act, it does make speaking in pubic of criminal acts by government officials treasonable to some extent and supportive of some of your behaviour. The Rights of People to speak out in their own language of choice, that is not only their dialect but also the language of their Social Economic Status (SES) when s.15AA of the Acts Interpretation Act is read with the Human Rights Laws applicable, then your abuse of the delete power exersiced by you is moot.

Australia is a country that almost requires a UN of its own, due to the number of nations and languages represented as resident in this country.

When you have to accept a High Court (HC) Registrar adds "Barr Spam" (sic) to the title line of your e-mails then you learn to accept the contempt born Australians have for the people that make up this country.

Your deleting of people speaking out in the language of their common use is as offensive as the HC Registrar adding "Barr Spam" (sic) to the title line ofmy e-mails. (I am an ex dairy farmer of big black and white cows not a farmer of land lice (sheep)).

This is a public forum of your making for subjects you are offended by, so you need apply a more lenient hand to your interpretation of the rules.

Thank you - who has TOLD me I am heavy handed? Perhaps a read through older posts might give you some clues as to how the Forums are moderated. All moderators have the power to delete. However these posts actually go to a quarantine area for comment by other moderators and a decision on whether the post should be reinstated and what if any further action is required.

Since you have used sheep in your post then perhaps I should be hung for a sheep instead of a lamb and start consigning your dubious posts to quarantine?

I deeply resent your accusation of my supporting anyone that breaks Australian Law ie Judges being accountable. Pressing the buttons of the sites Senior Moderator is not a clever tactic.

You have confused the usage of public forums with 'free for all', vent, stand on soapboxes and yell which this site is NOT.

I would strongly suggest you take a breather and think before you post certain material. The Moderators of the Family Law sections inform me you are within an inch of being suspended from those forums because they are no longer going to waste time reading all your posts and much of your material is inaccurate and inflammatory.

 Senior Site Moderator and Administrator
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