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Another Example of How Family Court Orders are Worthless

3yrs ago, after a 12mth battle in the courts, I obtained Family Court orders to see my kids on weekends and half school holidays. 2 years ago, my ex stopped following them. I filed for a breach, she retaliated with domestic violence and child abuse allegations. The allegations were very severe, but proven by police and doctors to be false. Today, we finally had the "trial". It lasted 1/3 days and the family report writer stated that I should see the kids for a few hours once a day, which increased gradually until I saw them weekends again… in a year!

My barrister said that if I foight the allegations, I could possible lose my kids, despite having orders. So I agreed, but they also made me go to a PPP course and an anger management course, even though there was no evidence of any anger issues. What happened to my ex for making dozens of false accusations to police and the courts? Nothing. She doesnt even have to do the courses.

Its true what they say… FAMILY COURT ORDERS ARE WORTHLESS and domestic violence is a load of rubbish.

The full story with copies of the allegations will be uploaded to www.dvmethod.com
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dvmethod.com said
My barrister said that if I foight the allegations, I could possible lose my kids.
in fact, haven't you already lost them? I would have stood up and fought for what is right as the outcome could not really have been worse than what you have ended up with!

Get a new Barrister. I have never heard so much codswallop. What allegations? You were in court for what? Did you seek costs on an indemnity basis for the false allegations under s117 . It sounds like you had very poor legal representation. A properly put case would result in a  proper outcome. Get a new legal team.

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dvmethod,

you are correct.

very simply, if a mother wants to deny you access, she will.

the 'system' WANTS to believe her.

I have attended 22 sessions of court in 18 months. IVOs, childrens court, IVOs and IVOs and IVOs the finally Federal magistrates x 4 intiating applications,  then contraventions, then bankruptcy.

my x had enough money to ruin me and wear me down.

i have grown tired of people sounding surprised that these things happen. its legal to accuse someone and then sue them out of existance - this is a free country.

i truly fear for the future of this country.
is that right?

so hows the battle going?

Not whiners - have a look at dvmethod.com - that is an active move.

None of this will change using legitimate means.

TWO things would send a message:

1. Every Payer in the country MUST write to CSA and demand they be listed as a write only customer

2. A semi-militant group to be formed to raise funds to give EVERY man accused of family violence (without being charged) and/or served with an interim IVO, DVO, AVO etc a fighting a chance. What the legal profession is doing to this country is criminal. Women are allowed to use aggressive and violent tactics..

If you commit a crime you should be charged - not given a piece of paper asking you to behave. THAT DOES NOT stop real threats from committing violent acts. I work in the emergency services field. IVOs, DVOs etc are a fund raising tool for the legal professions, no different to speed cameras.

Hmmm, let me think back. Man served that day with the 3rd IVO extension in a row. Visits the house of his wife, kills her and remarks on the phone to 000, 'finally got the b****…'

Anyone here, ringing out the values of the domestic violent act or our family law system, is either a) defending their income stream, or b) quite literally too stupid to realize what a scam it is.

It seems over the top.
But so is handing out an interim DVO with no evidence.
MEN are guilty until proven innocent (with a price tag)

SO are you ready to sign up?




It wont happen. You will be lucky to get 1% to write to the CSA and organising a semi militant organisation is plain nuts. Basically you are like most others becoming an overnight expert armchair general who for some reason thinks he knows better by ignoring those that do have organisations that have created change.
I have told CSA about 6 times that I can't speak to them over the phone via CSA Online. They keep replying that they need me to call them, after I said I can't.
I have been trying for 3 weeks to sent a message via their online service which keeps giving error messages & logging me out.
Does anyone else have this trouble with CSA Online? I would be happy to be a write only customer but their online service DOESNT WORK!!!
Send them a registered letter or even a faxed letter. Try replying to a letter or message rather than drafting one from scratch. If they call you, refuse to provide personal particulars citing identity theft as your reason for doing so. If they insist on calling, ask whether C$A is a phone first or phone only conversation.

If by chance you find yourself speaking with them over the phone, record it and let them know that you're recording it. You can download recording software for free. All you need to do is enable speakerphone and press record. They really don't like it.
Guest said
It wont happen. You will be lucky to get 1% to write to the CSA and organising a semi militant organisation is plain nuts. Basically you are like most others becoming an overnight expert armchair general who for some reason thinks he knows better by ignoring those that do have organisations that have created change.

LOL - armchair general.

when details of the private members bill emerg I will ensure you are left out.
csa are a joke they infact  are a collection agency and shouls only be used after u infact cannot obtain any support from the non caregiver  and it is not law to recieve support so mmm csa is a joke and just there to collect oaverdue   or by the bill like many collection agencys   so ehat if ur support isnt over due and u do pay why then can they steop in and treat u like a criminal fining u if ur 24 hours late too bad if ur on a commission or sick  no doesnt matter
Louise,

        It's obvious that you're frustrated with 'the system'. This site and others centered on similar topics wouldn't exist if family law matters were simple and light hearted. Unfortunately, they are quite the opposite. I mean this in a sincere rather than unpatronising way, but you need to find a better way to vent. Your prolific posts on this site are distracting and seldom add to the posters' paths to resolution.
louise said
csa are a joke
They do not treat collections as a joke I can assure you. If you suggest that is the case in a somewhat "tongue in cheek" way please elaborate on what specific issue brings you to that point. If you want to list for example, all the things that are wrong with the CS on line portal I will be interested in comparing that to our own list of around 20 significant site failures which we are still waiting for a resolution. BUT at least we have identified the issues, written about the issues eloquently, politely as well with diagrams and are following these issues up. What are you doing?
louise said
they infact  are a collection agency and shouls only be used after u infact cannot obtain any support from the non caregiver  and it is not law to recieve support so mmm csa is a joke and just there to collect oaverdue   or by the bill like many collection agencys   so ehat if ur support isnt over due and u do pay why then can they steop in and treat u like a criminal fining u if ur 24 hours late too bad if ur on a commission or sick  no doesnt matter
If you are overdue on your credit card what does the bank do?

(a) suggest you are a nice person and give you another few months to pay?
(b) Forget the overdue amount?
(c ) Charge you an overdue charge ? Then penalty interest , then 14 days later debt collectors chasing you…

There is no difference with the CS system. It is clearly a collection system. Why do you expect it to be different? The Government policy regardless of what Government gets in is the same. That is I shall make it very clear. The responsibility for Child Support is with PARENTS NOT the tax payer.

However saying that the formula (which needs serious review) does take into account low income and those on welfare. We and other groups are calling for a major enquiry into the CS system. The Child Support Agency is being dismantled and absorbed into The DHS. There is no Child Support Agency so its just CS now. There is much reform work in the CS area to be done. Make a list of what you want changed, with evidence and solutions so we can take it to legislative change.


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Guest said
It wont happen. You will be lucky to get 1% to write to the CSA and organising a semi militant organisation is plain nuts. Basically you are like most others becoming an overnight expert armchair general who for some reason thinks he knows better by ignoring those that do have organisations that have created change.
1% is being terribly generous dear Guest


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