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I am asking on behalf of my mother who is grandmother to my two children and to two boys from my brother. My mother and sister-in-law had a disagreement of global proportions several years ago and has since denied my mother contact with her two grandsons.

I am asking on behalf of my mother who is grandmother to my two children and to two boys from my brother.  My mother and sister-in-law had a disagreement of global proportions several years ago and has since denied my mother contact with her two grandsons.

My mother is not allow to smile, wave or say hello to these two boys and if she does all hell breaks loose with lots of swearing and verbal abuse in front of the children and usually in front of local townspeople.

My sister-in-law has even gone as far as requesting my local primary school to ban access to my mother in picking up my children after school as my sister-in-law believes my mother is having contact (as in saying hello or smiling) with her two boys.  The school agreed and banned my mother from their grounds.

There is no restraining order saying my mother is not allowed near the children.

My two questions are: Can the school do this?  And, does my mother have any legal right to see her grandchildren?

We live in Western Australia.

Thankyou for any replies.
I would suggest that the school is in damage control mode and because your mother does not have children at the school have opted to request that she does not attend the school, for the want of another word " Ban ". They can not stop her picking up your children from off the school property but can request she does not enter the school property but it is very grey and other arrangements can be made to mediate conflict if you wish her to pick the kids up which you will have to negotiate through the school personally.

The next part is even more tricky because if your brother is agreeing with situation and not bringing the kids to see their Nana then anything she proceeded with would be against both parents wishes and perhaps more pressure than she would want for the grandkids. I believe she could make an application for contact with them but whether it would go the distance I don't know but do doubt.

Unfortunately for your mother it may be better to apply avoidance techniques to reduce the negative effects on the grand kids.

In saying this you could take the school to task and demand in writing that they state your mother is not allowed on the premises and the reasons why she can not attend your childrens time etc, and you may even achieve a victory but at what cost ???

Family Feuds are always difficult I wish you luck.



   
larascupboard said
There is no restraining order saying my mother is not allowed near the children.

My two questions are: Can the school do this? And, does my mother have any legal right to see her grandchildren?

We live in Western Australia.

Thankyou for any replies.

I suggest you contact the Family Law Reform Association (FLRA) who are located under the 'Community' area on this portal.

The FLRA have done a great deal of work in this area regarding schools, additionally they have an area specifically to help Grandparents.



Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (look for the Avatars) Be mindful what you post in public areas. 
Thanks for your responses.

I had a talk with the school on Monday morning and had a win.  They have agreed for my mother to be on the school grounds and to pick up my children after school.

They have also agreed that without some kind of legal order stating that no contact can be made with the other two grandchildren, she is also allowed contact with them.

We have decided against making contact at the moment to see how the mother of these two children react to this information.

My mother contacted Legal Aid on Monday also and they have requested she begin proceedings through them to gain some kind of access or contact with the grandchildren in question.
larascupboard said
My mother contacted Legal Aid on Monday also and they have requested she begin proceedings through them to gain some kind of access or contact with the grandchildren in question.
I strongly suggest that your Mother still contacts the FLRA as the 'Grandparents' issue is an ongoing situation in Family Law and they would certainly like to be kept informed of all these cases.


Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (look for the Avatars) Be mindful what you post in public areas. 

Grandparents Speaking Out

Heart-wrenching not to see grandchildren

"Again today I have, with trembling hand, wrapped another birthday present for my beautiful granddaughter I am not allowed to see.

It will be delivered "indirectly" and my dear one will have no grandma hug and kiss to go with it.

A precious memory shattered and a section of mental loving support for my grand-daughter has been blown away as if by a wind, passing into time.

Cruel? Yes, it's cruel.

My husband and I have survived 50 years of such abuse, collectively, from our four children for one reason or another.

Did we raise insensitive and selfish children?  Yes.  We have survived it all and strangely we still love our children, children-in-law and grandchildren.

I do not hope for the time when the selfish ones will suffer the same from their own.  I would not pass this hell on to them.

I'm sure my husband and I are not the only elderly folk who are, at the very moment, covering tears and bearing heartache.

Let me them all to bear up and go out, believe in themselves and look at the roses."
Name and address supplied.

Source: The Senior NSW, September 2009







Not alone when it comes to loneliness

"I HAVE sympathy for the grandparents unable to see their grandchildren (Your Say, September).

The same ordeal has happened to me, but I cannot send presents or cards as they are returned by mail.

Legal help would cost a fortune and go on for many years.

Counselling and psychologists are a short fix.

Most of the time is spent wondering why your own can turn out this way.

When they live close by it can even create more stress, wishing you could speak to or just see them for a short while.

The letter made me feel a bit better realising it is happening to others."

Name and address supplied.

Source:  Your Say, The Senior NSW, November 2009

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.  M K Gandhi
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