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I wonder if CSA can refuse an income estimate and on what grounds? A friend of mine estimated his income 0 after he lost his job. CSA refused to accept this and they have garnished his account. He has no money for food and can't get out of his lease. They took 3k out within the last few month and the last payment declined and now they are herassing him. He has trouble to find a new job.

Now my husband might loose his job later this year, but is trying to set up his own business. They have told him to start looking after August. Depending on the business, he might be without an income for 2 months or something. I wonder if CSA will refuse to accept his income estimate.

CSA however easily accepted the payees 0 estimate after she did quit her 80k job. My friends story is similar. His ex reduced her wage from 120k to 36k.

What are his and our options?
There is info on this page on refusing an estimate http://guide.csa.gov.au/part_2/2_5_1.php  . Your friend can object to their decision. In the objection, it would be good to give details and evidence of why the job was lost, otherwise they could try and claim it was a deliberate act to reduce CS.

CSA GUIDE said
CSA can refuse to accept an income estimate election for a full year if it is satisfied that the parents adjusted taxable income (including their overseas income for a parent resident in a reciprocating jurisdiction) for the year of income is likely to be higher than their estimated amount (section 63AA(1)).

CSA can refuse to accept an income estimate election for part of a year of income if it is satisfied that:

    the parents partial year income amount is less than what CSA considers is likely to be the parents actual adjusted taxable income for the remaining period in relation to the income election (section 63AA(2)(a)); or
    the total of the income component amounts for the year to date income amount is more than the amount that CSA considers is likely to be the total of the actual income component amounts (section 63AA(2)(b)).

CSA can refuse to accept a later income estimate election made under section 62A if it is satisfied that the parents partial year income amount is less than what CSA considers is likely to be the parents actual adjusted taxable income for the remaining period in relation to the income election (section 63AA(3)).
CSA will consider all the circumstances and may obtain further information, either from the parent or a third party (e.g. an employer or an overseas authority) (section 63AA(4)). A history of underestimating alone is not enough for CSA to refuse to accept an estimate however it may prompt CSA to investigate the circumstances further.

CSA will give a parent the opportunity to show that their estimate is accurate before it refuses to accept an estimate.
Boy I wish I could record my C$A phone calls.

The CSA do what ever they want.

A month ago they tell me my "objection" was ruled in my favour. Then I find they are garnishing my pension and have changed their mind because she had a 3rd party speak for her.  I questioned them and the guy had a serious Faux pas. After  I was insisting on checking the maths he got all out of shape and said" Hey, if we can't even keep up trying to understand the changing maths rules then you have no chance. So stop telling me."
Ossman, I record every phone call with CSA. I have to check what the device is exactly, but it is like a USB stick that I plug into my laptop and then I call them on Skype. Never had to use the recordings for anything, but it might come in handy.
Ossman said
Boy I wish I could record my C$A phone calls.

The CSA do what ever they want.

A month ago they tell me my "objection" was ruled in my favour. Then I find they are garnishing my pension and have changed their mind because she had a 3rd party speak for her.  I questioned them and the guy had a serious Faux pas. After  I was insisting on checking the maths he got all out of shape and said" Hey, if we can't even keep up trying to understand the changing maths rules then you have no chance. So stop telling me."
 
Ossman, does your mobile phone have a "record" function? Many of them do. Just initialise the recording before you call them. This is perfectly legal but attaching a recording device, as Guest does, may not be in terms of using the recordings in court. The Privacy Acts in each state and the Commonwealth Telecommunications Act should be your guide on this. Basically,if the recording device is part of the system, no problem, but if it is a separate item, problem. Silly distinction, perhaps, but it's designed to stop illegal "bugging".
I thought it was only legal to record phone conversations if you stated quite clearly at the beginning of the conversation that you were recording this conversation?

"When we long for life without difficulties, remind us that oaks grow strong in contrary winds and diamonds are made under pressure"
Both parties have to agrre to the recording
It is perfectly legal to record phone conversations provided one of the parties is aware it is being recorded and the recorder is part of the equipment used to provide the telephone service. Both parties do NOT need to consent, just one. 

Telephone Recording

Gee folks instead of making assumptions and wild guesses using the search engine may have saved you a lot of time and saved you making posts which imply you cannot be bothered to use the search engine.

Recording a telephone conversation with the CSA is the same as Byrne and Byrne (FAMCOURT) (This is a Federal not State judgment)

No you do not have to inform the other party

Recording must be for lawful purposes

Must comply with the appropriate Federal Acts ie call cannot be intercepted but can be recorded simultaneously, example on a mobile.
The issue with a $0 estimate is that even if you have $100 in a bank account somewhere, chances are you will earn $1 of interest and bang! You've overestimated… If anything you're better off assuming you'll get newstart or something along those lines. The payments would still be on the minimum rate so you'd be better off estimating an income of $15,000
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