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CSA appear to be using previous years annual figures for asessments

Someone was kind enough to provide me with their assessment under the new legislation. It was close to what the calculator came up with, but not close enough for my comfort. After sometime scratching my head trying to suss out where the small anomaly was ($36 pa in one of the two multi-cases, and $66 pa in the other case both in favour of the recipients), I, for some reason, decided to try running the calculation using the annual figures for what would have been last years figures, this time the calculator was spot on. Pretty chuffed at that as this is a more complex case than the CSA's Estimator can handle.

Perhaps anybody using the calculator may wish to check against previous years to see if this is a commonplace occurrence.

It also raises the question as to whether this is right or not.

Another warning about the introduction of the new legislation. I am aware of one person who is being told that as a COA is in place, the CSA will not be doing an assessment using the new legislation. Are there any others out there with a COA who's assessment is changing or not changing. I wonder if the CSA are, avoiding using the new legislation when they can reap more by using the old and perhaps vice-versa.
When I was contesting my private agreement with my ex, CSA advised me that they base their assessments on last years income figures, unless the other party objected to that.

I could have been very rude, as my earnings last year were low and his were high - the impact of the stock market had not occurred. But I chose not to be mean.

We ended up changing days and reached an agreement on a private arrangement.

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Sorry Artemis.

I think I might not have been clear, by figures I meant the figures used for all calculations, that is the MTAWE (Male Total Average Weekly Earnings), figures such as the Self-Support Amount (also called Self Support Income) and the cost of children tables are all based upon this figure. You could liken what appears to have happened as the tax man using the tax thresholds etc. from a previous year.

I do recall in the legislation something that I think means that the figures have to be changed annually, before the new year from figures based upon statistics produced for September (ie. giving 3 months for the stats to be produced applied (it takes all of five minutes or so to add the new ones in the calculator, just a matter of adding 1 line to a file).
MikeT said
Another warning about the introduction of the new legislation. I am aware of one person who is being told that as a COA is in place, the CSA will not be doing an assessment using the new legislation. Are there any others out there with a COA who's assessment is changing or not changing. I wonder if the CSA are, avoiding using the new legislation when they can reap more by using the old and perhaps vice-versa.
Hello MikeT.

I got my assessment letter today and was surprised to see/read that my new assessment is based on the new 'Cost of Children" formula PLUS Change of Assessment (COA) amount (for private schooling).  So, what one of the CSA's officer  recently told me was incorrect, ie. my new assessment not using the new formula.

I was also surprised to see that they had used the 2006 Taxable incomes and even more surprised to see that my new assessment/amount only goes for 1-07-08 to 2-08-08…   Yes, only one month… I wonder what happens after 2-8-08…
Are these computer generated letters?

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Verdad.

One would assume that they would be computer generated, as I think virtually all letters from the CSS are.

What I suspect is happening, is that instead of being generated by batch processing, which in my opinion, based upon 20+ years in mainframe, could easily cope with doing all assessments in a night, from what I've heard from Jadzia's, Bugsiboys and others, is that the  letters are likely computer generated, but only after the manual selection of  parameters, are done manually. Hence the Ooops, that doesn't appear correct (not that I'll tell poor Jadzia …), Ooops well that looked a bit better, but hey shouldn't she be paying, ooops ……. ……. ……. …….

Just for Artemis, there's a propeller head acronym, GIGO, Garbage In Garbage Out.

The problem is, who's to know that you are in receipt of the garbage? Then if so, who's going to come and collect the garbage? I strongly suspect that it wouldn't even be recognised/admitted to as garbage.
Verdad.

These letters are computer generated as this is what CSA have told me.  However, I also suspect that for those Assessments that are not standard (eg, having additional COA payments, special payments) would all have to be parameter/user inputted.  So GIGO will take affect.

Regarding my new assessment being in place for one month, I think what will happen is that before August 2008, the CSA will do another assessment based on 2007 Taxable Income (or even 2008 Income)…  OR the August 2008 is GIGO!

Has anyone out there got their new assessment and have only a month or two on the new assessment?
MikeT said
Just for Artemis, there's a propeller head acronym, GIGO, Garbage In Garbage Out.
Hey Mike,  I have a whole collection of these GIGO letters from the CSA.
MikeT said
The problem is, who's to know that you are in receipt of the garbage? Then if so, who's going to come and collect the garbage? I strongly suspect that it wouldn't even be recognised/admitted to as garbage.
The Ombudsman asked the CSA to collect the garbage from my letterbox and replace it with something of value.

I kid you not; even other bureaucrats do not understand these GIGO's.
bugsiboy said
Has anyone out there got their new assessment and have only a month or two on the new assessment?
I do not have my new assessment yet, but it is likely to be even worse than that.

Mine was specifically written so that after July 1 it would be new formula plus a specified amount for school fees etc, but it also has a one month change for June only (not sure why), so a another change after one month will mean three changes in as many months.

Should be good for a few more computer generated letters!



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