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Their Wise Verdicts

Continue dragging couples through their inflammatory and expensive judicial system for two years so that at the end they can hand down their wise verdicts

Their wise verdicts

"Family Court judges would like to keep themselves employed in the business of deciding whether a father should have 37% residency of their child following family separation, or 48% residency, or 25% residency, or 42% residency, or 34.5% residency, or maybe even 50% residency, or 56.3% residency. 

"They wish to continue dragging couples through their inflammatory and expensive judicial system for two years so that at the end they can hand down their wise verdicts. 

"The only thing I can see is the foolishness of judges and Attorneys General, and the mercenary interests of the Family Law industry." 

Geoff Holland, May 2007 

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Last edit: by Geoff Holland


Coordinator, Equal Parenting Movement

Co-director, Fathers4Equality

What on Earth is this post supposed to accomplish?

Did it inform, ask a question or what?

I am not sure whether it is a whinge, whine or what, or just an advertisment for an organisation. How does this post in ayway move the position of 'EPM' forward to what it wants to accomplish

Purpose of the post - highlight absurdity, get active

Conan said
What on Earth is this post supposed to accomplish?

Did it inform, ask a question or what?

I am not sure whether it is a whinge, whine or what, or just an advertisment for an organisation. How does this post in ayway move the position of 'EPM' forward to what it wants to accomplish


  Hi Conan

I really don't understand why you are so aggressive toward my posts.  Are we not on the same side fighting for the same goals ?  Anyway, I will explain what I intended my post to accomplish:

1. This post is deliberately brief in an attempt to maximise clarity and impact.  It has been posted on a number of forums and websites.  People can forward it to whomever they choose with my blessings.

2. It is intended to demonstrate the arbitrary nature and absurdity of judges' orders on residency, and the foolishness of this current policy in that it obliges people to travel the whole two years of bureaucracy and theatrics in the Family Court system, when a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time would mean that the outcome would be pre-determined in all but exceptional cases, so there would be no need to ever see the inside of a court let alone meet the judge.

3. It is intended to stir dads from complacency and feel indignant about the ongoing abuse of our natural rights as a parent.  We are under the spell of long held myths that mothers are somehow more relevant as parents than fathers - myths we need to dispel.

4. It is intended to maintain political pressure on the government and AG's office, to let them know we are not content with the changes they've made around the edges.  We demand a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time - nothing less.  We will never cease campaigning until the equal natural rights of parenting are clearly embedded in the legislation.


Who knows, perhaps some people will perceive the network of people calling themselves the Equal Parenting Movement as a network of people focussed not so much on discussion, or on helping individual cases in the current policy regime, but a grassroots network which encourages each member to take active steps to change the system, such as:

1. collect signatures for the Fathers4Equality Online Petition and possibly hold a petition stall on the street outside Family Courts (with the necessary permits) to collect signatures:

http://www.fathers4equality-australia.org/equalparenting/petition.nsf/SignPetition

2. write letters to newspapers.

3. write, e-mail or telephone local Federal MPs and Federal Senators and other candidates for the upcoming Federal Election to ask them their position on a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time.

4. send Federal MPs and Senators, and other candidates Information Kits explaining why a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time is in the best interests of children.

5. to publicise which candidates endorse a policy of a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time and tell supporters of the policy so they know who to vote for.

6. to address meetings of various community organisations in their local area to educate them on the issues surrounding reform of Family Law and options for separating couples, and of the benefits of a Presumption of Equal Parenting Time.

(for starters)


Conan - hope we can cooperate,

Cheers, Geoff Holland


Coordinator, Equal Parenting Movement

Co-director, Fathers4Equality

Geoff

Are we reading the same Family Law Act?

Let me summarise it

There is a rebuttable presumption of 'Shared responsibility' and after this threshold the Court must consider 'Equal time or significant and substantial (meaningful contact)

No one will get substantial or equal contact unless they get Shared responsibility - makes common sense to me

So you want the 'Equal' time clause changed to 'Shared' - sorry I have trouble seeing the difference

Whatever phraseology is used - there will still be overides

Yes we are on the same side but you seem to be kicking at the wrong goal and running around the field in some very strange directions. We need team players not David Beckhams





Conan said
Geoff

Are we reading the same Family Law Act?

Let me summarise it

There is a rebuttable presumption of 'Shared responsibility' and after this threshold the Court must consider 'Equal time or significant and substantial (meaningful contact)

No one will get substantial or equal contact unless they get Shared responsibility - makes common sense to me

So you want the 'Equal' time clause changed to 'Shared' - sorry I have trouble seeing the difference

Whatever phraseology is used - there will still be overides

Yes we are on the same side but you seem to be kicking at the wrong goal and running around the field in some very strange directions. We need team players not David Beckhams
 

No one has put forward to me a convincing argument why we cannot have a "Presumption of Equal Parenting Time".  The word "presumption" means that there are checks available.

All this seems as though we are trying to get to the same thing in practical terms, or close to it anyway, through the back door so as not to upset the radical feminist lobby.

Yes, I take your point about team players rather than David Beckhams (though Beckham was very good at scoring goals and I am hopeless at soccer either as a star or a team player ;)  ).

So how can people like me be most effective as a team player ?  Up until now there was the executive doing lots behind closed doors (apparently still behind closed doors) without much communication with the masses of dissatisfied dads (and non-custodial mums).  I was told on many occasions by the President of a LFAA branch (and others) words to the effect - "its all ok, its all being taken care of, it's all happening, don't you worry."

Where are the teams ?  Who are the team leaders ?  And what do they want us to do ?

Up until now I havent seen any alternative to taking my own initiative.

What sort of grassroots campaign do we have organised for the upcoming election ?  Should we all just vote Liberal and keep quiet ?

We don't even have an Activist or What You Can Do topic area on this forum (yet).  (Yes I have requested one as I don't know how to set up a topic area, and I am sure it won't be too long coming.  Am I out of line here, or does this qualify as 'team playing' ?)

Look forward to working with you Conan,

Cheers, Geoff







Coordinator, Equal Parenting Movement

Co-director, Fathers4Equality

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