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A man from Europe contacted me asking for help. He'd heard of me through a mutual friend. Interesting correspondence

Recently a man from Europe contacted me asking for help. He'd heard of me through a mutual friend.

This is what I've suggested - below.

I've attached (down the bottom) the letter from his X's lawyers. ; It's staggering to see him using abuse allegations to corner this Dad, especially after their application for an Intervention Order was unsuccessful - thrown out by the Judge who gave the woman a stern telling off.

If anybody has comments or advice please get back to me.

Also I think we should use the Megaphone to alert the politicians that this abuse of women, children and their father's is still rampant.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
PARENTS AGAINST INSTITUTIONALISED CHILD ABUSE
Mornington
Phone: 03 5973 6933
Mobile: 0414 415 693
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Dear XXXXX

After having slept on this I believe what I suggested last night is the way to go.

You should write to your X's solicitors to tell them you are very concerned that they are being abusive to you, your X and your son, (that the court has found that their allegations of abuse are in fact contrived and made without basis) - that they are exploiting your wife by suggesting that your earnest attempts to negotiate arrangements for your son are abuse.

The "abuse" card represents a vicious game. Abuse can be almost anything - sexual, physical, verbal, emotional, financial or perceived. Abuse allegations get used by lawyers to dominate and oppress. Worse still they also use phycologists, psychiatrists and child counsellors to corner you and your family.

As the tension builds their control over your 'X' will increase, until she's prepared to let them do almost anything to your son, you and her! They are driven by money and normally succeed in fleecing their client completely.

Your letter to these solicitors should be short and polite, confirm that you will not have any dealings with them, that their letters will be returned and their emails blocked. It could also advise that you will / have reported them to the ombudsman, Law Institute and Professional Standards for what you believe their behaviour represents incorrigible scurrilous disregard for the welfare of your X and your son.

I will circulate this email and the letter form your X's lawyers to the network of Family Law reform groups I work with (with names deleted). Lawyers like these - and they are typical - play very dirty pool. Plus most of the practitioners they use - shrinks etc are equally corrupt. Plus they can usually rely on the protection of their industry / fraternity. Plus they are very powerful, and respected - they can easily cast you as an angry deranged, abusive father whilst claiming the whole time to be protecting your son and your X … from you!

It might be smarter to lay off the allegations in your letter and perhaps just convey your concerns, that you won't be accepting any of their letters emails, and that you will seek advice as to whether their behaviour is ethical. AS I say they are very powerful and dangerous.

Also our network of fathers groups can broad cast emails to all politicians - with the election upon us we might be able to use this case to put the government on notice of what is happening in the industry since it's so called reforms were introduced last year. This would help to further expose the unethical and possible illegal behaviour of your X's solicitors.

However we might have to be careful about mentioning their names - as I say they are very powerful. You don't want to be tied up in a defamation case. They use all sorts of tricks. I know of one case for instance where lawyers claimed a newspaper cutting about the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania was included in a letter to a mother to have the father jailed. They pull al sorts of stunt and rely on their ";professional standing"; to get away with it.

I am feeling good about this approach - cutting these lawyers out of the picture, and mediating a settlement with the Family Relationship Centre. …then escaping the corrupt practitioners by going home to Europe. However I suggest you wait a few days till we have some feed back and input form others.

Presumably your X would get a copy of your letter to her lawyers too, which may help. She might realise the situation she's got herself into. Perhaps your letter should confirm your understanding that it will be forwarded to your X so she is aware of your concerns for her and your son.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
Original Message
From: Simon
To: cyrus
Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Urgent

I am shocked.

These lawyers are bastards. But it's typical.

However as I say they profit from the trouble they can create. Winding you up is a priority - and usually fairly easy considering they are hurting your son. Stay VERY VERY cool. Its a marathon not a sprint. Don't stress out over time you are denied with your son - it can and usually does get much worse.

Generally all you can do is make it worse, unless you are very smart, cool and well advised.

Unfortunately your ex can breach orders with impunity anyway - claiming abuse is the standard way or doing you over.

Ultimately winning her co-operation is your best option. This might take a long time. Remember she is paying her lawyers a bomb - eventually they become her enemy … which is to your advantage. Also eventually she will come to see you as useful - eventually. If you stay very very cool (as a child minder, etc).

I expect you will get the orders you seek from a court - however far better that you negotiate an agreement with the Family Relationship Centre.(FRC). The hearings that are set down can easily be put off, on the basis that you are mediating.

As I said originally - the best thing is to stay away from the courts and the lawyers.

Maybe you should write a letter to her lawyer advising them you will have no contact with them as you believe they are working against the interests of your ex and your son, telling them that any letter form them will be returned unopened.

I think their correspondence to you to date would justify such a move. A Judge would I suspect understand and approve of your efforts to avoid litigation. Judges like it when you sort our your own affairs. They do everything to avoid making a decision.

I would not do a parenting course. Its a trap. Avoid the issue and avoid them.

They haven't got an intervention order on you so there's no reason why you can't avoid them. Besides the first communication should be by way of the FRC.

Maybe discuss this with Bob. A friend of mine (a commercial lawyer) did this and it worked well. It takes away their power.

They've got your son and his mother who they've milking. Don't try to speak sense with her. They are already playing the abuse card big time. This is how these cases are run by lawyers in this country.

The fact that they - the lawyers - are being so hard and so unreasonable is I think a reflection of your relatively strong position. ie: they were unable to get an intervention order on you.

My inkling is that you should avoid these lawyers - go to the Family Relationship Centres for mediation as soon as possible - to negotiate a consent parenting order. And talk to Bob Tudderham. Listen to his speech. Tell him I suggested you talk to him. Join and pay your membership fee - $30 I think.

Lone Fathers Association

LFA SA Inc
10 Box 684
Glenelg SA 5045

President: Mr Bob Tuddenham
Website: www.lonefathers.com.au

Also, there are others around in the various Fathers Groups who know how to deal with the Courts - like "Agog" at the Family Law Web Guide

He seems to defend the system as you will see in my conversations with him (funny how people who work with the system often end up defending it).

You could also view my speech - irrelevant to your cause really. It's what should happen. Meanwhile you have to deal with the reality.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
Original Message
From: cyrus
To: Simon
Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Urgent

HI SIMON SEE ATTACHMENT…

MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IS GOING on ABOUT MY CASE…

I REALLY APPRECIATE ANY OF YOUR OPINION.

LET ME KNOW PLEASE
From: email@dashlite.com.au
To: xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: Fw: URGENT
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:09:56 +1100

http://flwg.com.au/index.php?page=topicview&;id=271&;kfs58=0

You can look around here to get a feel for what your up against.

I haven't seen my daughter for almost three years - she lives in Melbourne.

Believe me if they get nasty - your done for.

Simon
Original Message
From: Simon
To: xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: Urgent

If you can prevent your X from knowing ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR GIRL FRIEND you son will thank you one day.

Regards,
Simon Hunt
Email admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Our Ref:MH:MR:60969

12 October 2007

Dear Sir,

RE:  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I have to hand your email dated 12 September 2007.

I have delayed in responding, as I have been waiting on confirmation from Mr LAWYER regarding your statement that you are now self-represented. The rules that govern Lawyers in Victoria require me to obtain that confirmation. However, I have now received written confirmation from YOUR LAWYER that he is no longer acting on your behalf.

You have raised a number of issues in your email. What you state is contrary to instructions I have received to date and I do not intend to respond in detail to the claims you make. However, I am instructed by my client to respond as follows:

1. The instructions I have received from my client, as set out in my correspondence to your former Solicitor and in Court documents filed to date on behalf of my client have not altered. What you put forward in your email is rejected and is not correct.

2. There are no Court Orders in place at present regarding contact between yourself and your son.

3. You have both sufficient information and the means by which you can maintain regular contact with your son when you are not in Australia and our instructions are clear that you have not done so. What has been set up has the dual purpose of enabling you to have contact with your son regularly, if you choose to do so, whilst ensuring there is no direct contact between yourself and our client, based on your past behaviour.

4. Our instructions are that xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx is well known to you and more importantly, is well known to and has a strong relationship with your son. The facts are contrary to both your letter and the intent of your claims. In any event, the arrangements our client would accept only require xxxxxxxxxs involvement on two occasions.

5. Our client has consistently insisted that contact between yourself and your son occur only on the basis of the Orders that we have proposed, a copy of which we understand you have received. That position has not altered, with one exception. Our client has been reluctant to raise behavioural concerns as an issue in the hope that matters could be resolved amicably, but your email indicates otherwise. There are behavioural concerns that our client instructs might be overcome if you were to undertake an authorized Parenting Course as soon as possible after your arrival in Australia. If that was completed by you and proof of the completion provided to our client via this office, contact might then occur in accordance with the proposed Orders that we have previously forwarded. If not, the behavioural concerns our client has will be raised. Any contact you have with your son will have to be supervised by an appropriate person approved by our client, at a venue that our client regards as safe, until such time as your bona fides and the behavioural issues are no longer in doubt.

The conclusion of all of the above is that at present, unless all outstanding issues, as set out in the previously proposed Orders by our client and as added to in this letter, are dealt with to the satisfaction of our client, there will be no direct unsupervised contact between yourself and your son other than by the currently available telecommunication means, unless and until Court Orders are in place. More particularly, if you simply turn up at the home of our client, the Police will be called.

Lastly, we are instructed to advise you that the mobile telephone you provided cannot be located. It went missing from its location in the kitchen of our clients home whilst tradesmen were coming in and out to undertake some work at the premises.  Our client does not wish to have communication between yourself and your son cut off and requests you forward a replacement. Given your concerns about reception etc., she suggests a better quality mobile telephone be provided. Please provide by email as soon as possible a contact point for you with respect to arrangements for you spending time with your son whilst in Australia, subject to what is contained above in this letter. Those contact details must be provided to this office, not directly to our client.

Yours faithfully

Solicitors

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Solicitor Tries Blackmail - Parental Alienation: Have a look at this for foul play

The below is offered as proof of a solicitor attempting to use blackmail to further his client's financial benefit from a property settlement. The worst part, both the solicitor and the mother involved were prepared to have the children suffer (as they did) and risk the Father going to jail and his life being ruined in their efforts to maximise their own financial gain.

Go to this link and read … http://www.parentalalienation.com.au/letters.htm

If you, or anyone you know, have been subjected to similiar I would love to hear from you, particularly if you live in regional southern Queensland.

This solicitor and others like him have to be taken to task.

Please pass this on to anyone and everyone, the more attention it gets the better the chances are of getting something done.

Thank you.
Recently a solicitor indicated that fears of the Law Society of NSW is not trivial.

"Any client of a solicitor or other party who has a concern or complaint about a solicitor's ethical conduct should contact the Office of the Legal Services Commissioner:"

Making a Complaint

The Legal Profession Act 2004 requires that a complaint regarding the conduct of a legal practitioner must be made in writing to the Office of the Legal Services Commissioner. The Commissioner's address and contact details can be found
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by clicking this link that takes you to the Legal Services Commissioner

The Commissioner's office has advised that a complaint by email is not adequate.

What conduct can be investigated?

Complaints about Australian lawyers must describe conduct by the solicitor which is capable of being unsatisfactory professional conduct, professional misconduct or which gives rise to a consumer dispute. These terms are defined by legislation.

Unsatisfactory professional conduct includes conduct of an Australian legal practitioner occurring in connection with the practice of law that falls short of the standard of competence and diligence that a member of the public is entitled to expect of a reasonably competent Australian legal practitioner.

Professional Misconduct is conduct by an Australian legal practitioner that includes:

- unsatisfactory professional conduct of an Australian legal practitioner, where the conduct involves a substantial or consistent failure to reach or maintain a reasonable standard of competence and diligence, and
- conduct of an Australian legal practitioner whether occurring in connection with the practice of law or occurring otherwise than in connection with thepractice of law that would, if established, justify a finding that the practitioner is not a fit and proper person to engage in legal practice.
- conduct that is declared by the Legal Profession Act to be professional misconduct;

Professional Misconduct also includes:
- conduct in the pursuit of the person's profession, "which would be reasonably regarded as disgraceful or dishonourable by the person's professional brethren of good repute and competency".

Dispute Resolution

Many complaints about the conduct of a solicitor occur because the complainant believes the solicitor's conduct has resulted in some harm to the complainant, and the complainant hopes to obtain some redress through the process of making a complaint.

If a complaint is referred to the Professional Standards Department for investigation, the Department investigator will consider whether the matter can be resolved without the need for lengthy and costly investigation. The action the Department investigator will take in this regard is as follows:

- Determine whether the conduct described by the complainant means it is possible there may be a resolution of the complaint.
- Find out what the complainant hopes to achieve through the complaints process.
- Find out the solicitor's attitude to an efficient resolution of the complaint.
- Facilitate a meeting between the complainant and the solicitor to discuss resolution.
- Facilitate negotiations between the complainant and the solicitor by correspondence, if the
complainant and solicitor are not prepared to meet.

Consumer disputes are disputes between a person and a solicitor about the conduct of a solicitor which does not involve an issue of unsatisfactory professional conduct or professional misconduct. Complaints involving consumer disputes may be referred for mediation by the Legal Services Commissioner or the Council of the Law Society.

The Professional Standards Department has qualified mediators available.

The Commissioner may also compulsorily require the parties to a consumer dispute to enter into a process of mediation.

Investigation of complaints by the Professional Standards Department

A complaint about a solicitor referred to the Law Society Council is investigated by an investigator employed in the Society's Professional Standards Department. A complaint can be dismissed without investigation if the complainant does not supply further particulars in the form requested by the Department.

The Department's investigator reports the facts and evidence disclosed by the investigation to the Professional Conduct Committee which represents the Law Society Council in the complaints process.

The Committee comprises Councillors of the Law Society, non-councillor lawyers and lay persons (non-lawyers).

The Department's investigation must be fair.

The Department investigator will not be biased in dealings with either the complainant or the solicitor.

Unless instructed otherwise, the Department's solicitor includes in the report to the Professional Conduct Committee only facts and evidence disclosed to both the complainant and the solicitor. If either the complainant or the solicitor asks that some or any of the allegations or evidence submitted be withheld from the other party the request will be considered.

The Department's investigation must be impartial and the Department's investigator cannot give any legal advice to either the complainant or the solicitor. Clarification of the complaints process, identification of issues involved and the nature of relevant evidence can be raised with both the complainant and the solicitor as the need arises.

The Department's investigation must be expeditious and timely. Complainants who fail to comply with the Department's requirements may find their complaints dismissed by the Professional Conduct Committee for lack of evidence. Solicitors who fail to comply with the Department's requirements may be required to provide information or documents, and a further failure to comply with such requirements, without reasonable excuse, may be professional misconduct.

Failure by a solicitor may also be a criminal offence.

The Department's investigation must be thorough.

The standard of proof in a complaint is that the Administrative Decisions Tribunal (the Tribunal) must be "comfortably satisfied" the solicitor is guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct or professional misconduct.

Penallties could be:
- a restriction on the kind of work that the solicitor may perform,
- suspension or cancellation of the solicitor's practising certificate, or
- removal of the solicitor's name from the Roll of Lawyers.

This brochure at: The Law Society - Information on filing a complaint has all the details.

at: http://www.lawcouncil.asn.au/policy/1957352449.html

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What is done for you, let it be done, what you must do, be sure you do it, as the wise person does today that what the fool will do in three days - Buddha
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One thing I would like to note that in the family court there is an expectation that both parties undertake Parenting courses, so if someone says that you specifically as SRL are to undertake the a parenting course it should be requested the same is done for the other parent. By asking that only you undertake the course they are trying to say only you need adujustment in your behaviour, by accepting that you only undertake the course you are saying that you have problems. That is my understanding of parenting courses.

Anger managment course are a different deal and should only be attended as far as I know if recomended by a judge or expert.Whilst in court no one should voluntarily undertake parenting or anger courses unless you have knowlegde the other party is obliged to do it other wise you are as close to admitting you have problems.

In the family court there is also an expectation that you pay for your own costs, so if anyone takes you to court saying you are abusive and that you should pay all the parties costs know that this is an unacceptable request, and moreso bullying to get you to run undefended or just give up.

Sorry if this is not on the topic of lawyers fighting dirty, but it is one of the tricks they use, and often.A SRL could easily trip up in this area

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Rarghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Han Solo routine "We're all fine here, thanks. How are you?" *weapons fire* "It was a boring conversation anyway!"

Ignoring Notice of Address for Service

Vascopyjama wrote

"You should write to your X's solicitors to tell them you are very concerned that they are being abusive to you, your X and your son

Your letter to these solicitors should be short and polite, confirm that you will not have any dealings with them, that their letters will be returned and their emails blocked. It could also advise that you will / have reported them to the ombudsman, Law Institute and Professional Standards for what you believe their behaviour represents incorrigible scurrilous disregard for the welfare of your X and your son."


I am very much in the situation that I feel the opposition solicitor is overtly attempting to intimidate me, regardless of the interests of the mother and child. I have made the complaint of conflict of interest to the Legal Services Commissioner that includes further unethical behaviours and abuse of process complaints – SOCA involvement, her client’s admission that her solicitor assisted her to abscond into a DV refuge, adjournment of the FMC trial on the day despite previous agreement, repeated serving unfiled responses on the day, interfering with court ordered counselling, contrived contravention for 6 hours to forfeit the family court trial date, objecting to every paragraph in the trial affidavit, demanding personal attendance of an OS witness, contriving an incident to press the duress buzzer after conference, filing a “new” application that has already been heard as part of a previous response but that will delay proceedings anyway –with minimal costs for a SRL, etc…. – a reckless fanatic.

I have refused her notice of address for service citing the conflict of interest that remains unresolved by Legal Services. I served documents directly on the mother. I received another notice of address for service and now another letter days after I served an application and just before Christmas. I know it is trouble. I don’t want to open it but what happens if I send the unopened letter back that might contain an important objection or court information that might be used against me?


What is the importance of the Notice of Address for Service? What happens if it is ignored?


solicitor lies to court

Aussie said
The below is offered as proof of a solicitor attempting to use blackmail to further his client's financial benefit from a property settlement. The worst part, both the solicitor and the mother involved were prepared to have the children suffer (as they did) and risk the Father going to jail and his life being ruined in their efforts to maximise their own financial gain.

Go to this link and read … http://www.parentalalienation.com.au/letters.htm

If you, or anyone you know, have been subjected to similiar I would love to hear from you, particularly if you live in regional southern Queensland.

This solicitor and others like him have to be taken to task.

Please pass this on to anyone and everyone, the more attention it gets the better the chances are of getting something done.

Thank you.
  To all

I had a solicitor XXXXXX Child rep from Melbourne who prevented the registrar from reading my Affidavit  by telling him I had no new evidence. I'd just received the letter from the DHS (our DOCS) saying that they had found no evidence of the sexual sexual abuse my X accused me of. I'd previously received a letter from another "child protection organisation" - CASA also finding no sexual abuse. I'd applied to get my contact restored on this occasion too. The child rep told the court I was wasting their time.

The child rep had only sent me a copy of the letter after prolonged pressure from me to do so. So he knew full well what my evidence was.

The case was dismissed on his recommendation.

I later got the matter heard and it was decided contact should not be restored until the matter went to final hearing - some months away.



My complaints to the legal ombudsman. law Society and Professional Standards were all dismissed on the basis that my earlier complaints had been dismissed.



Does any body know if anything can be done if a solicitor lies to court and his misrepresentations are acted upon to your detriment?

Vasco

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Posts in this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.

4MYDAUGHTER
4mydaughter said
Posts in this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.
 
Would that be DM of Sutherland?

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on the site (Look for the Avatars).   Be mindful what you post in the public areas. 
Monty,

Yes, indeed it would be.

I ran into DM at the Post Office the other day. Reminded me that I have unfinished business.

DM's is back on my 'To Do List' […for want of a better term]

4MYDAUGHTER
4mydaughter said
Posts in this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.
 

whats THE POINT OF hiding your identity?, doesn't really do you any good credibility wise, although its is a good idea if you are still hopping the FC will go easy on you and your kids.

Vasco
vascopajama said
4mydaughter said
Postsin this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.
 
whats THE POINT OF hiding your identity?, doesn't really do you any good credibility wise, although its is a good idea if you are still hopping the FC will go easy on you and your kids.

Vasco

Because the case may still be current and his ex and her legal people may be monitoring this public area of the site.

Remember Google 'lives' on this site.

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (look for the Avatars) Be mindful what you post in public areas. 
vascopajama said
4mydaughter said
Posts in this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.
 

whats THE POINT OF hiding your identity?, doesn't really do you any good credibility wise, although its is a good idea if you are still hopping the FC will go easy on you and your kids.

Vasco
  Vasco,

I see you distribute flashlites? Nice picture too.

Getup looks interesting. Fingers in a few pies I see?

Email addresses… telephone numbers can be entered into google yielding results.

Have I made my point?

Why use "vascopajama" if you are posting your name and other usable and searchable information in this forum?

You never know who is watching…

P.S. - You also provided another individuals email address, which also yields results including his name, various posts and blogs. How do you feel about that? More importantly, how might he feel about that?

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4MYDAUGHTER
Agog said
vascopajama said
4mydaughter said
Postsin this thread includes information that identifies specific individuals by name and email address.

Is this deliberate or an oversight?

I am about to go to the Commissioner regarding the conduct of a Family Law practioner operating out of the Shire.

I am aware that others here have had problems with this individual and would invite those who have been victimised to climb aboard.
 
whats THE POINT OF hiding your identity?, doesn't really do you any good credibility wise, although its is a good idea if you are still hopping the FC will go easy on you and your kids.

Vasco
  Because the case may still be current and his ex and her legal people may be monitoring this public area of the site.

Remember Google 'lives' on this site.

 
Google 'lives' on this site….what exactly do you mean by this?
Vasco
vascopajama said
Google 'lives' on this site….what exactly do you mean by this?
Vasco

Standard terminology. The Google search engine (amongst others) is permanently searching the public areas of this site. A search through Google can bring up many thousands of hits relating to FLWG and the names of posters.

This site contains many 'Google' warnings about identifying yourself if the matter needs to be kept private.

The private 'members only' forums cannot be viewed and therefore not searched and indexed by the search engines, hence the reason people join the private areas.


Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (look for the Avatars) Be mindful what you post in public areas. 
"I had a solicitor XXXXXX Child rep from Melbourne who prevented the registrar from reading my Affidavit  by telling him I had no new evidence. I'd just received the letter from the DHS (our DOCS) saying that they had found no evidence of the sexual sexual abuse my X accused me of. I'd previously received a letter from another "child protection organisation" - CASA also finding no sexual abuse. I'd applied to get my contact restored on this occasion too. The child rep told the court I was wasting their time.

The child rep had only sent me a copy of the letter after prolonged pressure from me to do so. So he knew full well what my evidence was.

The case was dismissed on his recommendation.

I later got the matter heard and it was decided contact should not be restored until the matter went to final hearing - some months away."

Am I missing something here?Did you have a full hearing or directions date? Do you have the results of the court ordered family report probably done by a forensic psychiatrist in view of the allegations. Was the ICL waiting on the results of the report? Were the reports from the agencies just one piece of the evidance presented? ICLs are fairly cautious and really dont do much until the final hearing. You cant bounce off to court over every new bit of evidance, no matter how compelling it is unless you expect a judge hear the matter in full in cases like these, if your having a final hearing you should only resonnably expect your evidance/matter to be heard once, not a few times. Its frustrating but you just have to wait like the rest of us.

Not all cases procede to trial as quickly as they could, I have to say with evidance from authorities that there is no abuse I would just be happy they came to that conclusion and prepare for the final hearing.

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Rarghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Han Solo routine "We're all fine here, thanks. How are you?" *weapons fire* "It was a boring conversation anyway!"
 To all I had a solicitor XXXXXX Child rep from Melbourne who prevented the registrar from reading my Affidavit by telling him I had no new evidence. I'd just received the letter from the DHS (our DOCS) saying that they had found no evidence of the sexual sexual abuse my X accused me of. I'd previously received a letter from another "child protection organisation" -CASA also finding no sexual abuse. I'd applied to get my contact restored on this occasion too. The child rep told the court I was wasting their time. The child rep had only sent me a copy of the letter after prolonged pressure from me to do so. So he knew full well what my evidence was. The case was dismissed on his recommendation. I later got the matter heard and it was decided contact should not be restored until the matter went to final hearing - some months away. My complaints to the legal ombudsman. law Society and Professional Standards were all dismissed on the basis that my earlier complaints had been dismissed. Does any body know if anything can be done if a solicitor lies to court and his misrepresentations are acted upon to your detriment? Vasco
First of all…. everybody lies in Court. Everybody, including Judges, know this. It's expected and "par for course". One of the disadvantages of being a SRL is that you dont have a lawyer to keep the other party, lawyers, the Judge, Registrar or Magistrate, DOC's, CASA, and Police - in check. Given that you, apparently, have a Final Hearing only months away, my (unqualified) opinion would be to focus on preparing for the Final Hearing. Pick your battles. May I offer one more (unqualified lay) opinion - don't get off-side with the ICL. And if you already have, do everything to repair the relationship. It helps to have the ICL's support during the Hearing.

4MYDAUGHTER
4mydaughter said
May I offer one more (unqualified lay) opinion - don't get off-side with the ICL. And if you already have,do everything to repair the relationship. It helps to have the ICL's support during the Hearing.

How very true and important.
People are in Court because they have an adversary, having another is a very unsound situation.




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