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Dr.Tom (the olive farmer) Altobelli

Nice guy. He always gives the guy off the street a fair chance; he also explains the options and the judgements to them

I have had the pleasure of watching Dr.Tom on a few occasions.

He always gives the guy off the street a fair chance; he also explains the options and the judgements to them.

He has also made some courageous judgements of late.

PS Dr. Tom - can you write some more reports for us to read?

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Where is he operating out of? Any special cases of note where judgements have been provided?

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Secretary_SPCA said
Where is he operating out of? Any special cases of note where judgements have been provided?
Sydney.

Some of his cases have made it to the Judgements of Interest section

We actually have a great deal of background information about Dr Tom but alas it needs some editing time before being put up

Of interest a 'lady' he favours for parents to discuss 'issues' with is Jill Burrett who is co author (with Michael Green) of 'Shared Parenting'

As 'Monteverdi' says he really is worth watching and listening to.

And for CFM Pascoe - a documentary featuring David Halligan and Tom Altobelli would 'surely do great wonders' for the image of the Court

I currently have several small wagers with people about how long before Dr Tom is moved 'upstairs' by being poached by DB. She did it with Judy Ryan.

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In my quest to help my partner, I've trawled through a lot of judgements (yeah, I'm boring like that). FM Altobelli's judgements are always rational and can be followed with commonsense applying.

I always find his judgements fair minded compared to some of the more subjective ones of his colleagues. I wish we were before him as I think we'd get a fairer deal and he would put up with much less nonsense from the X.

If he is "booted upstairs to DB" (?) I hope he has more power to influence other FMs to his approach and standards.

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Dr.Tom

It really would be very sneaky, for some one to mention Jill Burrett and Michael Green in the orders they are seeking, especially if they were before Dr.Tom.

I wonder!

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Artemis

what I actually said was "is moved 'upstairs' by being poached by DB. She did it with Judy Ryan"

Moved upstairs was my reference to being made a Judge.

DB being initials for Diana Bryant, Chief Justice of the FCoA. She is known to steal worthy candidates

I suppose we use the abbreviations too much -but perhaps the site directors will let us post up a series of common abbreviations

New visitors can become confused with CJ, CFM, FCoA and FMC

Dr Toms influence is largely through the myriad of papers he has written, his Law Professorship and his judgements.

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monteverdi said
It really would be very sneaky, for some one to mention Jill Burrett and Michael Green in the orders they were seeking, especially if they were before Dr.Tom.

I wonder!
Not sneaky at all. He is known for his knowledge of the Law and the application of common sense.

If orders contained we will consult with Jill Burrett or Michael Green about parenting issues before rushing back to Court (obviously correctly written) I am certain he would applaud it.

If FMs know of particular people that are 'problem solvers' they are generally only too happy to encourage that type of mediation (beats the FRCs hands down) and always has the potential to prevent further litigation.

I think that many people believe that 'you rush off to an FRC' without knowing there are other options.

I know of many people that have used alternative mediation, have come to agreements and never seen the inside of an FRC or more importantly a Courtroom.

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Attached is a paper from Dr Tom - before he became an FM

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Hello.

Correct me if I am wrong. I have read an article that Dr. Tom was interviewed about his support for lawyers and how great they are.

From what I have read it seems to me that there may be disapproval of the "SRL" to some degree and the SRL statistically takes up to three times longer to be heard!

Dr Tom is frequently discussed in the closed areas of this site -as yet there are no negatives expressed.

SRL's have often created a bad reputation in the Courts for time wasting and not understanding their case. With respect you were talking about the non existent 50/50 rule - how do you think that would have gone down in Court?

You have 'the right to represent yourself' and the Court has the right that you do not waste its time.

I doubt the 'three times is true' and if anyone prolongs a case that long - they may get a vexatious litigant tag stuck on them
 

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 :offtopic:

Put yourself in an FM's shoes. You are a professional and have done years of uni and law. Then imagine you have to untangle an SRL who is focussed totally on emotion - no logic and you have to make sense of this verbal soup…

It's like being in a formula one race and the poor old SRL is driving a ford escort - doing there best to keep up…

No FM likes dealing with SRLs. Some tolerate it. Dr Tom is one who tolerates it, from what I have read of him.

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Dr Tom's fan club

Dr Tom is a great guy; he's so father friendly that I sometimes wonder if he is a member of this site.

I have seen him patiently explain an order to an SRL on more than one occasion. My own personal experience is as follows:

- Getting thanked for my consideration of my ex's situation;

- Telling me I was arguing a technical point of law but I will grant you a stay of orders;

- Getting thanked again in relation to a financial matter;

- Thanking me for my consideration in regards children matters.

It all depends how you are to them - respect them and only use legal reasons not emotions.

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speak the truth

Artemis said
Put yourself in an FM's shoes. You are a professional and have done years of uni and law. Then imagine you have to untangle an SRL who is focussed totally on emotion - no logic and you have to make sense of this verbal soup…

It's like being in a formula one race and the poor old SRL is driving a ford escort - doing there best to keep up…

No FM likes dealing with SRLs. Some tolerate it. Dr Tom is one who tolerates it, from what I have read of him.
Not everyone is an Einstein and not everyone can properly represent themselves in court and wish they had the money. I am not smart, though I am smart enough "just". For some while now I have been sitting in court getting a "feel" of how they operate, so I don't upset them as a "SRL". I sat equally in the court rooms of FM Altobelli and FM Sexton this past month; just me no one else!

I had an application before Altobelli late last year, I will admit I could have done a lot better in my application. The FM decided that merit for the application to be decided under rice and Asplund? He did not give me a go! (Jon Pearson who replied to one of my comments in regards got it right) he asked me if I had a lawyer. I said no. He then sent me to the legal aid duty solicitor for advice. The duty solicitor told me she could not give  me advise as there was a conflict of interest . The FM knew the solicitor was legal aid! (Wrong advice). Dr tom was appointed an FM just over a year ago and is relatively new. I am sure he will excel into the future, as will FM Kemp.

I also have had an application of contravention in front of FM sexton in  early 2007 this FM showed tolerance, courtesy and respect, experience does show!

Six years ago my children had a representative from WATTS MACRAY. His name was Graham Hearl. (Dr. Tom was senior advisor to the firm.)

I am not afraid to speak my mind and give credit were it is deserved. I have just received a return letter from PM Kevin Rudd's office about my story on the treatment I had received in the family courts - so I registered my concerns. I have future appointments with federal and state members. I am playing an active role!

Give us "less fortunates" a go, as it the less fortunates that suffer in this court. for Agog the 50/50 rule is not from any court file. I mean "equal" parenting, responsibility, share, care… etc… my instincts say that you are either a lawyer or an affiliate of the courts am I right!

Dr Tom is an author of many legal text works and has probably authored half the current books in use - so he brought a very great deal of legal experience to the Court.

He was one of the key speakers at a recent legal conference which the SPCA attended. We would all like to make 30 clones of him.

Garry Watts was the previous senior partner of Watts McCray and became a Judge some time ago.

From the way you write about your initial Court encounters - you probably had a problem expressing your Rice and Asplund argument - which can get complicated - so it is generally 'off' to a legal Aid solicitor. Monteverdi wrote elsewhere - that Dr Tom told him to stop because he was arguing 'technical' - they fairly quickly pick up on the knowledge and skills levels of the SRL.

You have to forget using any terminology such as 50/50 in the Courts - and to repeat 'equal' under the Amended Act does not mean equal care - it means equal responsibility.

I applaud you for writing to someone - but you need to get involved in an organisation with political contacts such as the SPCA. That way there are no Dear John letters. Of course there is no point in dealing with State MPs about the Federal Family Courts.

You are doing 100% the right thing spending as much time as possible looking at the system from the Courtroom but you do point out the very sad fact that many people do not.  Unfortunately often their first experience is their first Court day.

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Hi Monaro, my reply was not intended to be a dig.

Sometimes it is helpful to take the sting out of being angry over something, by putting yourselves in the other persons shoes.

Court is a frustrating place, even with a well intentioned FM.

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Am following site member Monaro with interest.
Monaro said
The FM decided that merit for the application to be decided under Rice and Asplund? He did not give me a go!
We are far from happy with the existing Rice and Asplund provisions and have a detailed submission in the wings to amend this archaic piece of case law. It is a substaintial document that has been collated over some months and goes into the legal and technical complexities of the existing law with a view to possible solutions and options.

In relation to our Mr Agog and the Moderators. All are certainly practical people, with I would say some hundreds of years expertise between them, in and out of court libraries, courts and other less interesting haunts. At the end of the day the SRL has to take their case either fully or now partially with or without legal support. Without, then you absolutely need to do what you have done and that is go and sit in. Alternatively catch up with an SRL Moderator or join the group and read the materials provided that will save the courts time and give you credibility no matter who you are before.

The biggest problem in being an SRL is it takes a lot of reading and time to prepare. Dr Tom is certainly making some well rounded decisions. I have said this before and in the judgements of interest section there is further commentary. We need to look at the overall judgements. Are they leaning to where we need to be, or are we still at the old one night a fortnight and a bit more? I have a feeling we are well on the way to where we need to be but not there yet…

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I spent most of today in court preparing myself as an SRL.

I cannot say much at present as this hearing is still running over two days. The magistrate is Dr. Tom Altobelli.

I spent most of the day in his court and I must admit I was surprised at the tolerance and courtesy he gave to guess who… an SRL. Not only an SRL but one that could not speak English and had an interpreter; I was impressed.

Dr Tom

As I stated before I'll give merit where its deserved. At first I was reserved and had my doubts but after observing Dr.Tom in his court for the last month, I can truly say he is the best FM on level 4.

If you have doubts, come keep me company in his court - you'll soon change your mind!

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