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Government Funded Agencies that provide a national focus and community leadership to increase the capacity of the broader Australian community to prevent depression and respond effectively to it.

I don't know if anyone has noticed this but Beyondblue seems to be doing everything but look at mens problems - specifically men who have gone through the family court, divorce, CSA etc. Given the daily evidence of men disintegrating from the pressures on them I would have thought that studies into supporting men would be a prime concern. Instead they come out with a nation wide study into post natal depression.

Even their strategic statements seem targeted to  everyone - other than men specifically.

Click to see notes from their beyondblue Strategic Framework for Action 2005-2010

Focussing strategic priorities - 2005-2010

A summary of the priorities and opportunities for the five years 2005-2010 includes:

developing strategic pathways and targeted approaches to specific areas of depression and anxiety prevention in the workplace, among the elderly, in families and young people, Indigenous people, in post natal mothers and in regional and rural Australia, and partnering with agencies and organisations dealing with chronic disease, heart disease, diabetes, cancer and asthma.

Identify skills needed to cope with adversity, build resilience and provide families, schools, workplaces and community groups with the support they need to respond to depression and related disorders, i.e. what works, when and why.

Large community-based and practical prevention programs to be implemented focusing on families, teenage school children, younger children with anxiety and older Australians, (e.g. Depression prevention in ageing project).

beyondblue's Ybblue national media campaign, encouraging young people to understand depression and anxiety disorders, and seek help, must continue to be a key element of beyondblue's public awareness focus, linking with established youth support agencies, e.g. Kids Help Line, reachOut!, Life Line and Moodgym.

Innovative primary care programs and multidisciplinary partnerships for better management of depression, anxiety, social and emotional wellbeing among Indigenous people to be expanded.

Furthering key partnerships with Australia's rural doctors and regional health services in development of regional and rural depression prevention strategy.

Continue to grow the systemic advocacy and information-sharing role of blueVoices, the national consumer and carer network of over 9000 members that provides a valuable voice for people whose lives have been affected by depression, anxiety and related disorders.

Increase support for training programs in mental health for general practitioners and new services provided by clinical psychologists and other non-medical mental health specialists.

More research and partnerships need to be developed or expanded where existing such as a Memorandum of Understanding with the National Heart Foundation and with other health organisations, Diabetes Australia, for example to demonstrate and address chronic illness comorbidity links with depression.

Expansion of beyondblue-supported research and publication in national and international medical journals to provide further evidence-based information that can lead to better health outcomes.

Disseminate widely outcomes, and assist implementation of recommendations of current depression prevention research, for example the national Postnatal Depression project outcomes including screening of pregnant women as national standard and quality practice intervention.

Focus on the relationship between depression, anxiety and drug and alcohol misuse.

It seems Like they can focus on women , families, youth, indigenous - but men just become part of the scenery. Or are included in vague catch all and critical categories eg
  Focus on the relationship between depression, anxiety and drug and alcohol misuse.

i.e. do men misuse alcohol and drugs? Whereas women have a mental condition and need support and money (post natal depression) men are abusers and need to to be criticised - not supported.

The never ending classification as women as victims and men as unworthy continues - I would have thought that BeyondBlue would have had some sort of idea but they seem to be way off the mark in terms of a BALANCED view.

Its men who are depressed  - more than any other group - millions of men who have lost their children, houses, income and self worth.

 Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough
Well, I think a lot of men end up non-custodial parents because of PND and lack of their partner gaining (or being forced into) treatment.

Also, I think everyone in the mental health industry well recognise that any major life stress (marriage breakdown) causes depression and the many people self-medicate with drugs and alchohol.

I do agree with you. I'm pretty tired of seeing men get tarred with the DV brush.

It would also be a good addition to the beyondblue site if there was specific help for men. Perhaps emails from individuals giving site feedback would get the ball rolling.

Junior Executive of SRL-Resources

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (Look for the Avatars). Be mindful what you post in public areas. 

Beyond Blue favours male deficiency paradigm

Much of the men's health industry adopts a model based on male deficiency.

Beyond Blue appears to favour this discourse. I see little mention of the institutionalised forces that drive suicide and depression in men. The message of many men's health organisations centre around the political belief (gender separatism) that masculinity is to blame - ie men are too macho to attend doctors or ask for help - men don't communicate. I worked in health education for over 10 years and constantly observed discrimination by health workers justified by the deficiency model of men's health. one female proffessional health worker even told me that men committ suicide more because they are whimps! therefore find the current 'Movember' community health campaign distasteful.…ismov/07/What-is-Movember

Quote: Which ever way we look at it, men are far less healthy than women. The average life expectancy for men is five years less than for women.

The obvious question is why?  O_o

The answer is because men lack awareness about the very real health issues they face, have a "she'll be right" attitude and are reluctant to see a doctor about an illness or to go for regular medical checks. i.e. a male deficiency model of health care.

As you see, no mention of the fact that divorce, separation from children, and systemic discrimination by the divorce industry causes an 8 to 10 fold increase in suicides.

No mention that doctor surgeries are often male unfriendly places, and are not geared towards the restrictions of the working male - no agenda to lobby for GPs in the workplace where men are found. Movember aims to raise money for men's health, which is a worthy cause, therefore it should be compatible with their aim to mention (shout out loud!!) that men's health recieves 300% less funding than women's health (Prof John Macdonald, MHIRC UWS).

Likewise, the past 'Be A Man' community promotion for checking prostrate cancer insulted my intelligence - because of these adds I am now try to get myself to go for a check in spite of the pathetic hints of 'male deficiency' promoted by this campaign….  :(

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NP & AP [2006] FamCA 870 (30 June 2006)
Mother's Depression Impedes Baby's Development -- ScienceDaily
ScienceDaily: Mother's Depression Associated With Increased Risk …

I realise that these links are off topic, but they may have some useful stats to people. The are focussed around women and depression.

Junior Executive of SRL-Resources

Executive Member of SRL-Resources, the Family Law People on this site (Look for the Avatars). Be mindful what you post in public areas. 

It is Reported

I recall a longetivity study done a couple of years ago. The male group with the best outcome, longest average lifspan, were those actively involved in normal family group. I.E. happily married with mature adult children.

Once you remove the extra risks to life and limb face by men to earn the family's daily crust, and consider the likely range of long term stressors family break down and subsequent isolation from children can and does bring. Allow for the sheer number involved in family breakdown, it is extremely likely that the average lifspan of males is significantly scewed downward by this single group.

Yet this single issue is very seldom considered in any complete study, often deliberately left out because of political correctness.

For me - Shared Parenting is a Reality - Maybe it can be for you too!


Words and ideas are powerful things. There is no point moaning about the perceptions and biases people have about a group or an individual - the only thing is to conduct oneself in the best way possible - as an example to all. People who have been discriminated against all their lives know this weight.

I am trying to put together a form of words which can be used publically to help focus everyone's (beyond blue, health industry, research groups, AG etc) attentions on issues which are important.
I am looking for people who might be interested in helping draft a set of positive words to express this idea - backed up with approriate statistics and ore other material.

I have started with this:


Left For Dead

Its time for a good honest look at Australian Men and what is happening to them.

There are clear signs that they are being left behind in health, education, government support and family outcomes. This is a complex problem with many issues involved but unless we as a society start taking positive steps towards identifying and addressing the issues we risk losing the type of positive, balanced and healthy society we want to have for everyone. We want as many men as possible to lead productive and healthy lives.

A major issue with men's health is suicide. Any examination of the published ABS statistics on causes of death show men committing suicide at four times the rate of females. We don't wont our males to kills themselves - why are they doing it and how can we stop it? There needs to be research focus on the complex issues which affect men throughout their lives - from childhood, adolescence, working and family years to the older age groups. Are males getting the support they need and what are the influences which affect them throughout those years?

There are signs too that the health industry needs to be more interested in male health issues. Obviously its not just about whether men are committing suicide but its whether they are living a sufficient quality of life. It is thought that men don't seek help from health professionals. Supposedly this is to do with doctors not being available at the times and places men need them. What are the other reasons that men are not getting the support they need - from medical research, treatments, drugs, education, financial support and availability. Do we know what the issues are and how to improve things so men get better outcomes?

and lots more

The idea is to present the issues , ideas and support material to help get various groups to at least have the facts and information to do their job - i.e. SUPPORT THEM so they can support those most in need.

Anyone want to help? Ideas?

 Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough
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